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All we have are scriptures and texts that could have been a series of meme that built/improved from eachother but lost the common knowledge between the generations that it was fictional.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is actually what i sorta believe. Thats jesus was just a smart guy amongst stupid people.

Like people be all dirty and getting the plague and hes like "bruh go wash youself in the river, you dirty as fuck, thats why you keep getting sick".

Then next minute they get better and theyre all like "omggggg the messiahhhh"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

E's not the messiah, e's a very naughty boy!!!

[–] Plopp 3 points 2 months ago

I say he is the messiah! I should know, I've followed a few!

[–] Valmond 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But a narcissistic one. He did believe he was the son of the fucking god lol.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

But Jesus didn't write the bible, it was mostly written over a hundred years after the fact. I believe Mathew is the closest at 80 years and John was 300 years later. We have no way of knowing whether Jesus actually did say anything of the sort. The Nicean Council was mostly a political one so Constantine could solidify his power by utilizing the top heavy hierarchy of a fledgling branch of Christianity.

We only have the Nag Hammadi library because of "heretics" preserving it in secret.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wish it were easier to find dispassionate, objective historical analysis of how the Bible was assembled and written. If one searches for any such information the results are an inundation of pro-bible sites trying to retcon the writings to as close to the alleged existence of Jesus and his followers as they can.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] RememberTheApollo_ 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Her work seems to center on women in religion, at least with multiple references in the wiki write up indicating so.

Does she have a standalone comprehensive book on the historical origins of the Bible? Seems she has multiple pieces that focus on different aspects, and they seem very academic, but I didn’t see one that was more generalist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Her books on the Nag Hammadi library go deep into the early foundations of Christianity even pre-council.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 1 points 2 months ago

Thank you. I will absolutely check her works out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

——— (2003). Beyond Belief: The Secret Gospel of Thomas. New York: Vintage Books. ISBN 978-0-375-50156-2. OCLC 50913545. ———; King, Karen L. (2007). Reading Judas: The Gospel of Judas and the Shaping of Christianity. New York: Viking Press. ISBN 978-0-670-03845-9. OCLC 85255593. ——— (1979). The Gnostic Gospels. New York: Vintage Books. ISBN 978-0-394-50278-6. OCLC 1002324965.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 1 points 2 months ago

Thank you. I will check these out.

[–] RattlerSix 1 points 2 months ago

Look up Kipp Davis on YouTube and anyone who has appeared in his videos, including Dan Mclelean, Digital Hammurabi and Jennifer Bird

[–] Valmond 1 points 2 months ago

Well who cares if you're not a believer?

The book is about a (super) narcissistic guy!