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Republicans suggest in 'private' that they would be better off if Trump loses: GOP insider (www.rawstory.com)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/conservative

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[–] TropicalDingdong -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, its a coin toss right now based almost all available channels of information. So yeah. He might win. And if he did win I agree that it would effectively end party politics; I don't think he would give up power again, and I don't think there is any elected official that would resist him. I do have faith in the joint chiefs however, so while it might be considered a military coup, I have faith they would honor their oaths to the constitution (even if judges, and senators and presidents dismiss theirs, I can assure you service members take their oaths more seriously). If Trump refused to step down, I was confident that the joint chiefs would step in in 2020, and I'm still confident they would today.

That all being said, even though the numbers put it at 50%, I still think its Kamala's to lose. She needs to stop with this Israelli fucking genocidal apologist stance and get back into taking names mode, but beyond that, she's crushing it. If she had more time, this would be even easier. We can blame every single apologist who argued we needed to back Biden even though he was floundering, drowning, dying in the polls (pre debate). They did the entire country a huge disservice with their toxic approach to politics and rhetoric: we should have ignored it then, and we should ignore it now.

To keep this thing on rails we need to mobilize as a country to force Kamala to a position thats more acceptable to voters: whithold arms to Israel. US taxpayers stop funding a genocide. We don't want to fucking pay for the killing of innocent Gazans. Its a no fucking brainer but the DNC is captured by the Israel lobby (like how in years past they were captured by the pharmaceutical lobby). However, the fact that we were able to break the spine of Blue MAGA and get rid of their toxic approach on Biden, indicate we can also use the force of withholding our vote to move Kamala on Gaza. We just have to demonstrate that she can't win without those votes.

Withhold your vote has been the only tool demonstrated to be effective in moving the needle this election cycle. If we use it to move Kamala on Gaza, we can save her from herself.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is probably going to get me downvoted to hell and back, but from an electoral standpoint Kamala taking a strong position on Gaza doesn’t matter. Tragic as it is, the median voter and most importantly the few swing voters in the US don’t really care about it. Yes, the majority of Americans disapprove of what Israel is doing and support a cease fire, but it’s just not a high priority. Sure, people who are extremely online and spend lots of time in leftist space care, but the average voter? It’s barely on their radar.

Only 21% of voters even mention it as important. https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3903

[–] TropicalDingdong 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Only 21%

Less than 1% of voters will be deciding this election. 10-20% of voters voting in Democratic primaries voted "uncommitted."

Thats an overwhelming number of voters who the Democrats absolutely need to have to win this election. Its been a series of unforced errors from the Harris camp on Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think you severely underestimate the effect it would have on the republican voters currently planning on voting for Harris. It sucks and it's awful, but you lose basically that entire group if you do it.

[–] TropicalDingdong -1 points 3 months ago

Mm. No.

We can easily get Harris into office with 0 Republicans voting for her, and I guarantee you that the differential is way out of Republicans favor.