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[–] FireTower 10 points 3 months ago (6 children)

The fact so much of the games industry has latch to $60 as 'the price' for decades is shocking. It's an unsustainable practice and will increasingly make companies lean more on post launch predatory practices.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

That is a good point.
On the flip side, they're not largely selling something that has any physical finiteness to it anymore, and the sales volumes have increased drastically, resulting in significantly higher profits despite a smaller inflation adjusted unit cost.

The cost of a good decreasing as an industry matures feels right. Jello cost 23¢ a box in 1940. Adjusted for inflation it should cost $5.17 a box now, but it's only $1.59.
When there's 2 games to buy, they can be justifiably more expensive than when there's a massive surplus.
The games are different, but it's not like consumers can't find a different one they'll also enjoy if the first one they look at is too expensive.

Inflation has made $60 less valuable, but they're not selling to the same market that they were 30 years ago either.
It's hard to use inflation to justify raising prices or adding exploitative features when you're already seeing higher inflation adjusted profits due to a larger more accessible market, lower risk due to reduced publishing overhead, and more options for consumers, which would be expected to bring prices down.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Games also sell at a much higher volume than they did back then.

Wages have also not kept up with inflation, which is why games at over 100$ would be out of reach as a casual hobby for most.

[–] filister 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be honest, I have only bought one or two games at full price. Most of the games I buy are having deep discounts.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Ummm, yeah, me too... Discounts...🏴‍☠️🦜

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

While I generally agree, I think that there are some other ways that one could make games:

  • One is to just do games incrementally. Like, you buy a game, it doesn't have a whole lot of content then buy DLC. That's not necessarily a terrible way for things to work -- it maybe means that games having trouble get cut off earlier, don't do a Star Citizen. But it means that it's harder to do a lot of engine development for the first release. Paradox's games tend to look like this -- they just keep putting out hundreds of dollars in expansion content for games, as long as players keep buying it. It also de-risks the game for the publisher -- they don't have so much riding on any one release. I think that that works better for some genres than others.

  • Another is live service games. I think that there are certain niches that that works for, but that that has drawbacks and on the whole, too many studios are already fighting for too few live service game players.

  • Another is just to scale down the ambition of games. I mean, maybe people don't want really-high-production-cost games. There are good games out there that some guy made on his lonesome. Maybe people don't want video cutscenes and such. Balatro's a pretty good game, IMHO, and it didn't have a huge budget.

I do think, though, that there are always going to be at least some high-budget games out there. There's just some stuff that you can't do as well otherwise. If you want to create a big, open-world game with a lot of human labor involved in production, it's just going to have a lot of content, going to be expensive to make that content. Even if we figure out how to automate some of that work, do it more-cheaply, there'll be something new that requires human labor.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Ah yes the easy dev environment of the 1990s, too bad none of our game dev tooling, experts on the subject, cross platform porting difficulty, and physical delivery costs have all stayed EXACTLY the same.

[–] BedbugCutlefish 1 points 3 months ago

Eh, apples to oranges.

A 60$ game today is so unlike a 60$ two or three decades ago.

No physical medium. Much larger market and (potential at least) sales volume.

Proliferation of game engines; games don't need to 'reinvent the wheel' each time, or write machine code anymore.

On top of that, there's many other revenue streams. Not that I think this model is 'fair and good', but look at the mobile market, where a sale cost of $0 is king.

Something to be said about 'lower cost incentivizing bad practices' (as the article discusses), and yeah, some games could raise their price. But it's far fron 1-1, as 'sales volume' trumps 'sale price' in importance.