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What happened in the vegan community?

I hadn't heard about any of this until seeing that ToS post.

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[–] hate2bme 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Is eating lab grown meat vegan?

[–] Fosheze 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Not yet. Growing cells in a lab still requires fetal bovine serum which is obviously an animal product. There is work going into replacing it with a synthetic alternative but, to my knowledge, noone has been successful yet.

[–] hate2bme 8 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the informed reply.

[–] Lemminary 2 points 3 months ago

fetal bovine serum

That sounds awful. :( Hurry up, science!

[–] batmaniam 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You seem knowledgeable, is the FBS clonal? Like can it grow more undifferentiated or does it need to be continually harvested?

[–] Fosheze 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

FBS doesn't contain cells. It's a chemical/protein mixture used to grow various cell cultures. On It's own it doesn't do anything. It just contains most of the things that growing cells need.

I actually know very little about it though. Check out The Thought Emporium on youtube if you want a better look at how it is all done. They do all sorts of fun stuff like engineering yeast to produce spider silk, growing neurons and using them for basic computation, making a meat berry, and using a genetically engineered virus to cure their lactose intolerance for a while.

Edit: Also that youtuber did some testing on replacing FBS and the growth medium with other substances with some sucess. If I remember correctly, they found that for growing regular muscle cells they could replace like 60% of the FBS needed with egg yolk without harming the cells. But that's still an animal product so it's still not exactly vegan.

[–] Viking_Hippie 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Depends who you ask:

some would say that it's vegan as long as no animal has suffered or been deprived for your meal, meaning that lab grown qualifies.

Others, such as the crazies in the vegan circle jerk community, believe that as long as it's ever been in the same zip code as a leather belt, it can never be vegan.

That last one is exaggerated, of course, but nowhere near as much as you'd hope..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"a person who does not eat any food derived from animals and who typically does not use other animal products".

not by that definition

[–] itsgoodtobeawake 2 points 3 months ago

Very few can say that they truly exist without ANY trace of animal products in their lives.