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Factually, that's what he did during his time in office as well. I'm not sure what they thought had changed.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Bullshit. They're going to keep pumping out "Trump is losing so horribly no one has to vote anymore" propaganda so then we'll have another 2016. Our rights are at stake and life is going to be harder for everyone except the elites if Project 2025 happens. All I know is I'm showing up to vote regardless of who's "winning".

[–] just_another_person 39 points 3 months ago

Everyone associated with the campaign is constantly on the air and saying the opposite. Got out and vote, and don't trust polls.

[–] leadore 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, whether Harris would win without your vote or not, you still have to vote for all the other offices too, so we can have a Dem majority in the House and Senate, and more Dems at your State level in the legislature, governor's office, AG, election board, school board, etc. Those things are just as important as POTUS. Not to mention that even in states Harris winds up losing, the margins need to be made as small as possible to show how much support she really has in all states (very important for both parties to see this--it impacts what policies get implemented, what they think they can get away with), also for future funding allocation of candidates by the parties, etc.

Bottom line is that voting is tremendously important to do, no matter what! Not voting just has too many negative consequences.

[–] captainlezbian 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also treating voting as optional decreases your sense of obligation to democracy. Voting and political participation are rights, but they carry with them duties. Even if I feel the need to turn in a blank ballot I see it as a responsibility to turn in a ballot of some kind. To let myself not do so is to take the first step towards only voting if I feel like it. So no, every two years non negotiable, every major primary, and usually even off year elections. On the Tuesday following the first Monday in November I’m busy unless I voted early.

[–] leadore 1 points 3 months ago

I agree, I've voted in every election since I was old enough to vote. I'm pretty old so that's a lot of elections. I wish civics was still taught in school. We were taught that voting is a civic duty and that you have to constantly defend your rights or you will lose them. Anyone who doubted that can no longer deny it or be shocked at how quickly it can happen.

[–] CptEnder 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll never forgive Wisconsin.

[–] Branch_Ranch 2 points 3 months ago

Yea, but cheese is really good though.