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Without evidence, the Republican vice presidential candidate tried to cast doubt on his opponent's obvious momentum: "If you talk to insiders in the Kamala Harris campaign, they're very worried about where they are"

You’ve heard Donald Trump cry “fakenews” too many times to count, and now his running mate is claiming — without evidence — that the media is using “fake polls” to show Vice President Kamala Harris is in the lead in the presidential race.

In an interview on Fox News Sunday, Sen. J.D. Vance alleged that “The media uses fake polls to drive down Republican turnout and to create dissension and conflict with Republican voters.”

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Don’t trust polls.

High quality pollings (Gallup, Ipsos, various university polling groups) are consistently reliable within the margin of error. There's no point in being afraid or dismissive of them.

There’s always an element of society who pretend they don’t know who they’re voting for yet. They’re voting for bad things

There are plenty of people who are disinterested or uninformed. They aren't naturally malicious simply because they don't religiously follow political news. Lots of them don't even know if they're going to vote until early voting starts, and even then only vote as part of their family or social group rather than because they have an emotional attachment to one of the parties.

The regional nature of voting tends to mean that if you're too shy to express your views, you aren't in the majority anyway. Its the guy who answers the phone in a MAGA hat and shouts "Hell yeah I'm voting fer Trump!" that you have to worry about, not the one who is too shy to whisper support for RFK Jr down the line.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

don't trust polls.

This isn't telling you to not be confident or to be scared, this is telling you to not assume victory is assured. Vote regardless of polling. Polling can be accurate or not. If the polling is accurate, and a majority would vote for A, but A is so far ahead of B that A-voters sit out the race, B can still win if enough voters choose to stay home.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 2 months ago

this is telling you to not assume victory is assured

Who looks at a 50/48 polling split and thinks victory is assured? That's still within the margin of error and it doesn't even include battleground swings.

But if it was 60/40? Yeah, I'd feel pretty assured. You'd be a fool not to.

If the polling is accurate, and a majority would vote for A, but A is so far ahead of B that A-voters sit out the race

People keep talking about this like it ever actually happens? Name one candidate that lost an election because the polling was too favorable.