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US President Joe Biden has said he is not confident there will be a peaceful transition of power if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.

"[Trump] means what he says, we don’t take him seriously. He means it, all this stuff about ‘if we lose it will be a bloodbath’.”

Mr Trump’s comment that it would “be a bloodbath for the country” if he loses the election, made as he was talking about the auto industry in March, triggered a wave of criticism.

The Trump campaign, however, said the comment was specifically about the auto industry and had been deliberately taken out of context. It sent a fundraising email which said Trump’s political opponents and others had been "viciously" misquoting him.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This is the entire quote:

"No, we're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you're not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected. Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that's going to be the least of it, it's going to be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the least of it. But they're not going to sell those cars, they're building massive factories."

The context is talking about Chinese cars, but the bit where he says "it's going to be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the least of it." really looks to me like he's saying there will be a bloodbath in general if he doesn't get elected, the one in the car industry being small compared to it.

I don't know why I'm spending time and energy examining the idiotic ramblings of the orange gibbon.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I understand he is talking about cars... but that's not how anyone has taken it...

As a left centrist in a deep deep red state. I've got yet another firearm on order currently.

My politics boil down to

I want my state sponsored medically insured gay married neighbors and their adopted freely educated children to be able to protect their legally grown pot plants with fully automatic ak47s.

Lol

Hilariously those beliefs are sins in the face of my neighbor's... Which blows my mind.

[–] Seleni 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Conservativism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: there is a group that the law should protect but not bind, and a group that the law should bind but not protect.

And the thing is, while there are some people who just go along with this for the benefit of their own grift, the vast majority of these people actually believe that an order like this is absolutely necessary, and if we don’t have it civilization itself will collapse. In their view there must be a strict hierarchy and everyone must ‘know their place’ in it, or we are all doomed.

Because of this, they spend their time primarily in two pursuits:

  1. Trying to force everyone to live this way, because it is the One Right Way To Live
  2. Proving to themselves and others that they deserve to be in the In Group and at a certain level in that hierarchy, usually by trying to assign people to the Out Group and then put them in a lower position.

You’re just someone they’re trying to stuff in the Out Group, is all.

It’s also why they don’t like the idea of minorities in power; one, in their eyes minorities belong in the lower tiers of the Out Group and therefore their presence will destroy the fabric of society, and two, they think that if minorities are let into the In Group, then they will be forced into the Out Group.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

The context is great! Its exactly like his other interjections - usually uncorrelated and exactly what's really go in his mind

His bigot blurts are about the only truth he speaks

[–] ulkesh 5 points 3 months ago

Hey, leave the orange gibbons alone -- they're considerably smarter than the orange wannabe Hitler.

[–] Maggoty 5 points 3 months ago

That's the problem isn't it? He's not mentally there enough to realize a presidential candidate can't talk about a bloodbath without it being taken that way. I learned that you have to think about how your message is received in grade school. And that was just to avoid detention.