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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Each year in the United States, deer–vehicle collisions resulted in at least 59,000 human injuries and 440 human fatalities.[1]

In 2000, of the 6.1 million lightweight motor vehicle collisions in the US, 1 million involved animal-vehicle collisions. Deer–vehicle collisions lead to about $1.1 billion in property damage every year.[2] State and federal governments, insurance companies, and drivers spend an additional $3 billion in an effort to reduce and manage the increasing number of deer-vehicle collisions.[3]

Majority of animal-involved human deaths in the US are deer-vehicle collisions. Going slower can greatly diminish the frequency and severity of those collisions.

[–] chiliedogg 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Amish buggy crashes combined (including those not even involving motor vehicles) had about a 2.5% fatality rate as opposed to about 1% for deer collisions. But even worse, if you normalize the rate of deaths by US population across 10 years and number of Amish buggy deaths by Ohio Amish population between 2009 and 2019 (best I can do for fair numbers in a rush), you'll find rates of 0.000013 and 0.000202, respectively.

That's more than 10x the fatality rate for the buggies. The Amish buggies are absolutely a larger threat to public safety per capita.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And if you drive slow enough for deer, you should be more than slow enough for buggies.

[–] chiliedogg 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ambulances driving the speed limit hit children sometimes. Should we outlaw medical transport? Of course not.

There will always be crashes because not all wrecks can be prevented through policy. So we have to balance the social, economic, environmental, and human cost of how we approach road safety.

If you drive 20mph in the driving lane of a highway with a speed limit of 65 just in case somebody wants to act like it's the 17th century, it's way, way more likely that either you'll be rear-ended or someone passing you is gonna hit someone rise head-on versus simply driving the speed limit and asking the Amish to install a fucking blinker on their thousand-pound black box in the right of way.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Find me a road with a 65 mph speed limit where 20 mph is the speed actually required to not hit a stationary hazard or an animal sprinting into the road.

I don’t believe you can until you can show it to me.

In case you haven’t noticed, when a road has a speed limit of 65 mph, the foliage is trimmed far back from the road. That open space, where nothing can hide to leap in front of the car, is part of the design of a 65 mph road.