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Soon, Old Glory will have to be born in the land of the free and not merely flying over it.

Congress has passed a proposal to require the federal government to purchase only American flags that have been completely manufactured in the U.S. The U.S. imports millions of American flags from overseas, mostly from China, and the sponsors of the proposal said it’s time for American flags to originate in the country they represent.

Supporters of the proposal, led by Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine and Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio, said the change is more than just symbolic — they believe it will support American jobs and manufacturers while preserving the nation’s most recognized banner.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Capitalism. Until we don’t like particular ramifications of capitalism and then we legislate nationalisation of particular industries….because.

Truly the invisible hand of the market at work.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There’s a Pretty Good Chance Your American Flag Was Made by a Prisoner: People of color are incarcerated in huge numbers. And they’re manufacturing America’s symbol of freedom.

Harris was referring to the visit she made to the Central California Women’s Facility in July, a visit on which I tagged along. It was a surreal experience to watch dozens of women, mostly women of color, at work stations inside of the country’s largest prison for women, laying out and printing fabric and then dyeing it royal blue. It was just as surreal, if not more so, to hear prison officials point out that these flags would one day fly atop every state and federal building in California, describing this with something almost adjacent to pride.

U! S! A! U! S! A! U! S! A!

[–] derf82 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Considering this only covers US Government purchased flags, this IS the invisible hand of the market. It’s a consumer choosing where they want to purchase products.

And it is t nationalizing the industry. They still will be privately produced. And individual Americans can still by Chinese flags.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The particular industry that’s being nationalised is American flags produced for US government consumption. (The nationalisation part)

They’ve decided to legislate because they don’t like the optics of some foreign made products. (This isn’t an invisible hand; it’s opaque)

How is that justified in a supposedly capitalist society when China can produce flags of the same quality but at a cheaper price?

Edit: maybe protectionism is a better word than nationalise, end effect is the same; The government of a capitalist country is directly interfering with the market.

[–] derf82 4 points 4 months ago

Nationalization means the government takes full control of an industry, not merely sets standards on their purchase.

And buyers are able to have any reason they want for their purchase decisions, including optics. It’s still the invisible hand. And besides, I think it’s more than optics to want American tax dollars to go to Americans.

Capitalism doesn’t mean “always buy the cheapest.” It means anyone can sell at any price and quality, and the people choose. And, in my experience, Chinese made goods are often of lower quality, made with poor environmental standards, and produced with questionable labor practices (including outright slave labor).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Haha oh my God right?

Oh shoot can someone fuck with our supply of flags while trying to push nationalism???

But not healthcare huh?