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Watch how Tesla goes bankrupt because of one CEO's idiocy and greed and then blame unions for it. Tale as old as time.

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[–] Cornpop -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why would a business be better dead than unionized? If it’s making money still then the answer is always no. Stupid statement.

[–] guacupado 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Walmart is making money.

Should be unionized.

[–] Cornpop 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

100 percent. Once a company gets over a certain threshold of employees it should be mandatory honestly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does Tesla fail to meet that threshold for you?

[–] Cornpop 2 points 1 month ago

Fuck Tesla lol musk is a shitbag. Companies much smaller than them should be forced to unionize. I’m all for unions. Was thinking maybe 50 employees as the cutoff?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Imagine how many hundreds of millions they have spent to keep their stores from unionizing. All to keep pay down. How much profit is in it for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stop thinking from the business' point of view instead of the workers.

[–] Cornpop 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As a worker, consumer, and employer myself there is benefits to each and every one of those things, and they work best in harmony with one another.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can pick two of those 3 things and argue in good faith, but not all three. Actually two of them are mutually exclusive.

[–] Cornpop 0 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Just saying that proves you see it from the company's point of view. The flat signs should not be more important than the people working for it. Sorry, corporations aren't people. Make people's lives better, every time. You can't make a business happy, it's not a real entity.

Prioritize your workers (as in, be unionized) and your customers. Those are the only people involved. Stockholders and board members are just leeches. You're either producing the goods and service, or you're consuming it. Nobody else matters or should be considered.

CEOs making 4 or 5 extra digits than their front line workers are the absolute worst.

Any action taken against any union by the company should just get the company bankrupted and paid out to the employees tbh.

Anything less is just the business telling the workers to their face "we want you to make us way more money than you'll ever even hear about while we figure out ways to legally take everything we can. Their objective is typically to not spend any money on employee well-being unless it is actively costing them more to not do it.

Almost nobody is on any company's side at all (other than the owner). People want good working conditions and good living conditions. No one cares how happy the business feels.