this post was submitted on 28 Jul 2024
1147 points (97.6% liked)
Enough Musk Spam
2189 readers
801 users here now
For those that have had enough of the Elon Musk worship online.
No flaming, baiting, etc. This community is intended for those opposed to the influx of Elon Musk-related advertising online. Coming here to defend Musk or his companies will not get you banned, but it likely will result in downvotes. Please use the reporting feature if you see a rule violation.
Opinions from all sides of the political spectrum are welcome here. However, we kindly ask that off-topic political discussion be kept to a minimum, so as to focus on the goal of this sub. This community is minimally moderated, so discussion and the power of upvotes/downvotes are allowed, provided lemmy.world rules are not broken.
Post links to instances of obvious Elon Musk fanboy brigading in default subreddits, lemmy/kbin communities/instances, astroturfing from Tesla/SpaceX/etc., or any articles critical of Musk, his ideas, unrealistic promises and timelines, or the working conditions at his companies.
Tesla-specific discussion can be posted here as well as our sister community /c/RealTesla.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
So your argument right now is that Trump is less genocidal than Kamala? You're saying abstaining is the correct decision in terms of lives lost, and specifically in terms of the tangible outcome, because Trump is less likely to fund or participate in Netanyahu's genocide than Kamala Harris?
I'm voting for PSL, and I would say that everyone else who can, should.
The democrats have just proven to all of us that they are willing to assist in a genocide if it's politically expedient. Why should I as a trans person not expect to be next on the chopping block as soon as the democrats determine it's politically inconvenient to protect my rights?
I'm not pretending that republicans are not worth contempt; frankly it's beneath that for me. However I don't view the democrats as faithful actors. The democrats are extremely willing to implement a republican agenda and warmonger. Trans rights and quality of care has been eroding under Biden/Kamala even in blue states.
Okay, so I said abstaining increases the amount of genocide, voting D decreases it. You said that's not true, Trump wouldn't bomb West Bank. I pressed you to state it explicitly, you walked that claim back. I am now going to treat the debate on D being better than R as settled.
America uses the First Past The Post voting system. FPTP suffers from the spoiler effect, which guarantees that regardless of your political affiliation or the specifics of the situation, voting third party always harms your interests. This has been mathematically and experimentally proven. Voting third party is, in terms of consequences, the same as abstaining.
Therefore, in terms of consequences, you are risking more Palestinian lives than I am.
citation needed lmao
democrats: genocide with pinkwashing
republicans: genocide with magawashing
yes, another baseless assertion. here's what you're communicating to me: "my enemy is ontologically evil therefor anything other than supporting me is increasing harm".
The most notable genocide that's happened in the last decade has been with Democrats willingly participating.
Our presidential election is completely independent of the popular vote, I am participating in it because it's what we have, however you are kidding yourself if you think my vote has any influence on which genocidal maniac ends up at the helm.
You are Canadian and babyraging that people in a country you don't live in are not taking your political input seriously.