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In a fresh broadside against one of the world’s most popular technology companies, the Justice Department late Friday accused TikTok of harnessing the capability to gather bulk information on users based on views on divisive social issues like gun control, abortion and religion.

Government lawyers wrote in documents filed to the federal appeals court in Washington that TikTok and its Beijing-based parent company ByteDance used an internal web-suite system called Lark to enable TikTok employees to speak directly with ByteDance engineers in China.

TikTok employees used Lark to send sensitive data about U.S. users, information that has wound up being stored on Chinese servers and accessible to ByteDance employees in China, federal officials said.

One of Lark’s internal search tools, the filing states, permits ByteDance and TikTok employees in the U.S. and China to gather information on users’ content or expressions, including views on sensitive topics, such as abortion or religion. Last year, the Wall Street Journal reported TikTok had tracked users who watched LGBTQ content through a dashboard the company said it had since deleted.

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[–] braindefragger 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And US companies do the same thing but arguably in a way that's worse for our country. Elon is actively interfering with X/Twitter to make a more conservative user base, and Facebook is famous for giving this influence to other private companies leading to Trump.

Again, I don’t understand why we have to keep going back to a known problem and try to use it to justify a different concern. The topic is China’s TikTok.


https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/7/24093308/tiktok-congress-ban-push-notification

TikTok sent users in the US a push notification on Wednesday, warning that “Congress is planning a total ban of TikTok” that would “[strip] 170 million Americans of their Constitutional right to free expression.” The page says that a ban would “damage millions of businesses, destroy the livelihoods of countless creators across the country, and deny artists an audience.” The alert includes a way for users to find their representative and call their office.

https://mashable.com/article/tiktok-users-call-congress-to-save-the-app

“It’s so so bad. Our phones have not stopped ringing," said one GOP staffer in a report from Politico. "They’re teenagers and old people saying they spend their whole day on the app and we can't take it away."

China can send push notifications to 170 million Americans about whatever they want.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Again, I don’t understand why we have to keep going back to a known problem and try to use it to justify a different concern. The topic is China’s TikTok.

Because the other problem is worse and more of a concern? Because it shows our politicians are either hypocrites, have a different agenda, or both? Because it tricks people into thinking their enemies are abroad rather than the rich at home, preventing international solidarity and underselling the problem of the influence of our own home grown businesses, billionaires, lobbyists? Because it strengthens their power by preventing another alternative avenue of information away from their censorship? Because usually the first solution takes away momentum from the problem, preventing a better solution for a longer period of time?

"They’re teenagers and old people saying they spend their whole day on the app and we can't take it away."

But did all those calls actually result in anything? No, Tik Tok is still being banned. Did the things I talk about result in anything, the influence of American companies? Yes, it's increased and strengthened conservatives, the Citizens United scandal helped lead to Trump the first time, they've suppressed dissent against Israel, helping to justify genocide, normalized racist, homophobic, and transphobic rhetoric online in a more mainstream space (X), etc. These are hard facts, not conspiracy theories dreamed up about what China could do.

Not to mention that asking users to save their app is something literally any app run by a business would do. They would do that even if they were owned by an American company and were getting threatened by a ban. Like I said, no worse than the SOPA blackout by companies like Google and Reddit where they asked users to contact representatives. Meanwhile, American companies Uber and Lyft did huge lobbying efforts and spent record breaking amounts of money making life harder for gig workers in California with Prop 22, for example, and did a huge advertising campaign lying about the effects of it.

Let me ask another way: Do you really, in your heart, truly believe that they're going to circle back to dealing with the privacy of American companies after Tik Tok? Be honest. This conversation will be permanently tabled once these Tik Tok articles are out of the zeitgeist.

[–] braindefragger 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We should remove all centralized, single company run social media platforms in the US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I agree, especially now that the fediverse is starting to become a thing 🤘. As long as we can keep the fediverse controlled by the users, and not dominated by companies like Meta's Threads

[–] braindefragger 6 points 3 months ago

But did all those calls actually result in anything? No, Tik Tok is still being banned.

I wear a helmet and a seatbelt because I’m aware of the potential injuries that could occur if I don’t. I’m not going to stop wearing a helmet because it hasn’t saved my life yet.