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the final boss after you clear Donald Knuth (hexbear.net)
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[–] LotrOrc 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hope you're just really misinformed and not just really racist but you should take a quick stroll to your local library, buy a few history books and look around.

Christianity has been far more brutal and repressive for a lot longer than pretty much every other religion out there.

[–] rottingleaf 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm Armenian, so I know you're bullshitting me in the context of the Middle-East. We are not talking Americas and Africa here.

[–] LotrOrc 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What does that have to do with anything lmao

King Leopold murdered ten million Congolese. The British empire 100 million Indians. The dutch started the slave trade.

[–] rottingleaf -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which doesn't change anything in the conversation that started about "the Islamic world" being built on the conquest of more civilized peoples, which were mostly Christian.

Also I'm fine with reducing Christians to "middle-eastern Christians" here. Others don't seem really Christian from there anyway. For these reasons as well:

King Leopold murdered ten million Congolese. The British empire 100 million Indians. The dutch started the slave trade.

Only I think the Portuguese started the slave trade. Not that it changes anything.

[–] LotrOrc 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Persia, India, and China all had great empires and knowledge well before Christianity was even a little sperm cell in the Judean god's sac but sure

Which btw most of foundational mathematics was created in the Eastern and Persian world, not by Christians. And it was from there that the Greeks got their knowledge. To the point Pythagoras was not the one who created or realized the Pythagorean theorem, it was just named after him because of the western world. And that was a couple thousand years before Christianity existed.

The literal word Algebra comes from Al Jebra and his works.

So yeah you're just racist and misinformed.

[–] rottingleaf 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Persia, India, and China all had great empires and knowledge well before

I said that most civilized areas conquered by Arabs during the initial Muslim expansion were mostly Christian, and they were. That would be Egypt, Syria, Mesopotamia, Armenia and the Iberian peninsula. Berbers in Northern Africa yeah, mostly weren't Christian.

The Sassanian Empire was obviously a Zoroastrian theocracy with a huge Christian population.

What does this of yours sentence have to do with what I said requires clarification.

well before Christianity was even a little sperm cell in the Judean god’s sac but sure

You do realize that this is even truer for Islam, right?

Which btw most of foundational mathematics was created in the Eastern and Persian world, not by Christians.

And as I've said already once, the Middle-East was Christian at the moment of the Arab invasion, and Iran was Zoroastrian. Thus attributing praise for any of the achievements the conversation was about to Muslims is fucking asinine.

So yeah you’re just racist and misinformed.

I've forgotten on this subject more than you ever knew.

Also how does contempt for the Muslim religion make one racist, I wonder? It's (in Sunni variants, I'll admit Shia Islam is better) every bit as worthy of contempt as the Christian religion, but without the upsides.

[–] LotrOrc 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yet ignore the entire part where I talk about the non Christian world. And advancements before Christianity advent, which is not attributing that to Muslims. Do you have some reading comprehension issues?

[–] rottingleaf 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you have some reading comprehension issues?

I don't consider it useful to continue conversations with such fools who also can't stop insulting people better than them. Fool blocked.

There's a difference between relatively non-destructive "advent" of a religion in a certain culture and conquest by illiterate Bedouins burning and sacking everything "immodest" they see.

[–] LotrOrc 1 points 5 months ago

Again, go pick up a history book. Glad to be blocked by a racist and a fool