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Plant-based meat needs government support to scale up, but a culture war stands in the way (grist.org)
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[–] turbowafflz 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Interesting, I'm not even vegetarian and I really like beyond meat. It doesn't taste exactly like real meat but it is so good in a different way and I get it like whenever I have a chance

[–] thrawn 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I too am not vegetarian and like it. I don’t see it as a meat substitute, it’s just something I like eating. It’s more like a different type of meat.

I’ve eaten multiple a day (it has good protein) multiple times a week, coincidentally including the past two days, and it’s never made me feel weird. I just throw them on the stove as a quick protein snack and rawdog that shit two patties at a time. Kind of degenerate behavior but I like the way beyond tastes alone. I swear my food taste isn’t totally fucked, I eat normal things too

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the beyond meat is mostly for non-vegetarians to see that you can get similar feel using vegetables.

Generally I would rather eat real meat or when I want something vegetarian just give me a bean/pea patty with some good spices in.

[–] thrawn 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah definitely. Weirdly I still like it, the flavor is more interesting to me than beef and it’s a lot easier to rawdog

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't know, I think it's the mix and intensity of spices that they use, maybe?

And we agree on the idea. I'm not vegetarian but I've long decided that vegetarian-branded food should be judged on its own merits as food, not as "adequate replacement". Like: is this veggie burger yummy, do I enjoy eating it? That's the question, not "is it a good enough approximation to meat". If I want meat, I'll eat meat.

So (good) beef, chicken, veggie burgers: I like them because they taste good. Beyond meat burgers: I don't like them because they make me feel yucky afterwards. That's all.