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Wow... fuck....
Is there a term for this? Giving someone something and then taking it back? I mean, there's "Indian Giving", but I want one that isn't racist, outdated, and based on a poor understanding of US History?
If there’re no other alternatives, then I propose that going forward the new term for this should be “Crowd Striking”
I feel like CrowdStrike did some much groundbreakingly stupid shit that this term will be too ambiguous...
But “Indian Giving” as a concept was just a way to excuse giving the indians a deal then renegging on it everytime the wind blew. Classic projrction propaganda before it was invented by ivy leauge schools.
Indeed, that's why I was asking for a non-offensive version of the term to apply when people actually give you something and take it back.
I believe that "Indian Giving" is sourced in a cultural misunderstanding between Indigenous and European societies. Indigenous societies were reciprocity based, so giving gifts should be reciprocated with a gift of like value to strengthen relationships, or increase honour (social standing). The Europeans were working in a patron-client system so a gift was seen as a way of purchasing access to power through a patron. The Europeans thought the Indigenous people were paying for access to power (like a tributary), so there's no expectation of returning a like gift. The indigenous people thought they were entering into a mutual relationship, and when a like gift wasn't returned that was seen as reneging, so they took back their 'offer'.
Glad to have an anthropologist kick my ass.
Ill ask around local MMA gyms
Short-term gifter
You misspelled long term grifter