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sheesh, i was born in 1990, and I think that the problem got much worse in 2016...
Nah, I was born in 1987, and 2012 is definitely when it went to shit with the "tea party"
1985 here, I'd place it with Clinton neoliberalism personally (the left sold out, and the right totally lost their minds as Rush Limbaugh's proteges started showing up on cable news)
I mean, the lead up to the tea party's core ideals was already there with stuff like that Imus wanker openly calling the WNBA "Nappy-headed hoes" on his national news show in like 2004-2005. The current hard right, isolationist, bigoted downfall has been going on since rush limbaugh hit the airwaves in the late 80's. Before the rush era, there was some serious bullshit, but that was the start of not stowing the hoods UNDER the pickup seats anymore. Saying the bigoted parts out loud, in public, and nationwide with blanket tacit approval from roughly half the country really grew legs with that fucker. I think that was 87. Pat Robertson running for president and everything.
The concepts of "us" and "them" started getting real widespread traction with otherwise middle-of-the-road people when rush hit.
I'm a 90s baby but I'm still pretty sure Regan was where things started going downhill.
I mean, is it my fault I was roughly 25 when the Great Recession happened? Because I’d peg that as when shit started getting really weird and bad all around. But I also agree that we took a much sharper downward turn in 2016.
(I don’t mean to dismiss the deeply misguided military adventurism the US was engaged in during the naughties, but the question I’m answering here is “when, in your perception, did shit start to go real sideways in this country”?