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[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

People really need to drop this Insistence that progressive/leftist shit won't win an election. Even with Trumpism as the alternative, dems can't get a leg up because they think chasing trumpers further right will flip them - but trumpers are trump loyalists and even "normal" Republicans are all in. There's no votes for dems there, but they've completely lost their potential base playing this game. Nobody votes because our options are corporate far right or corporate mid right.

If Dems want to mobilize apathetic voters, bring the left vote in, AND flip some "traditional Republicans," they need to run on those policies that are largely popular like M4A and run a candidate with a track record of fighting for more progressive shit that people dont think will drop it all on day 1 like every other dem.

The problem is dems will take Trump over moving an inch to the left 10/10 times.

[–] roguetrick 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If anything, it's been proven time and time again that centrism doesn't win elections. Centrism is a strategy where you adopt it and hope your opponents just fuck up horribly. You're certainly not out to create a platform for change or chase votes. See the recent UK election for an example, the Tories collapsed but in actual numbers labour gained almost no ground. That's almost an impressive amount of walking in a victory.

[–] Cryophilia 1 points 5 months ago

Centrism delivered massive wins in the US in 2020, what are you talking about? Biden won over the Rust Belt.