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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I don't know how to get everyone I know to really understand this. Every time I bring it up in conversation, the other person just puts their hands up and explains that they're powerless to address it, so it's not even worth talking about. I don't know how to respond to the apathy.

[–] candybrie 7 points 5 months ago

With reasonable, actionable steps. If you don't have those, then they kind of have a point, don't they? It's like the Newton's flaming laser sword of politics.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be honest i offen feel the same, just helpless and too insignificant to change it in my own. But thats the point, we are not allone! I just try to show them undenieble facts, the already very present effect of climate crisis or just statistics of how the money is distributed in our country. The thing I struggle most with them is their bad feith in people. For example many welfare programs or in the extreme the concept of unconditional income by the state gets always used to argue that people are lazy and it would not work because no one would get a job anymore, which i disagree with

[–] ZMoney 3 points 5 months ago

The best way to counter this is to point out the laziness at the top. Corporate welfare is way more damaging to society than the few million lazy people at the bottom. It would cost a lot less to write them off than to pay CEOs 2000 times as much as the average worker.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Maybe focus on a smaller scale.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Include, in your politics, actionable steps. The most important step is to create worker coops and supporting institutions, so you aren't giving the fruits of your labor to capitalists with what you do everyday @memes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Try recommending Marxist texts, or inserting them (tastefully) into conversation.

[–] ZMoney 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And, since we've shifted so far to the right, the "Marxist" texts can be written by John Maynard Keynes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

John Maynard Keynes isn't Marxist though

[–] ZMoney 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's my point. The average democrat would consider him to be a dangerous radical leftist.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

I wouldn't say that an American mainstream economist from the mid 20th century is part of the pipeline to radicalization, but sure

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I agree with the sentiment, but I do think Marxism itself should be spread, haha.