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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

In another thread about Grindr going down during the RNC convention, the general opinion is that they are repressed homosexuals and that is why they are fascists. I think Pete hits on, and you sum up, the real reason: some rich gay people feel insulated by their wealth from the problems that republicans might introduce, and think adding even more wealth is the way to go.

[–] billiam0202 10 points 5 months ago

Yeah, they should ask Ernst Rohm how well that goes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is a mindset I am having a very hard time wrapping my head around. Why?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Think about it. Our entire western civilization revolves around how much money you have. Most billionaires are only concerned with accumulating more wealth, and historically Republican administrations are pretty good about supporting that (tax cuts for the wealthy, gutting of social programs to support those cuts, etc). They don't give two shits about the rest of the population, as long as their wealth increases.

Money is also power. The more power you have, the more you get away with. So even though someone like Thiel might be as gay as a rainbow, he's in that echelon of people who are quite rich and powerful that being gay doesn't matter, he has the money and power to sidestep the oppression his comrades seek. Their reason for the oppression of gays is the same as the oppression of any other marginalized group (LGBT+, women, POC, etc); it gives their supporters an enemy, which in turn galvanizes their base, and reinforces the party's power. People like Thiel aren't concerned with any of that because they have the resources and influence to sidestep that oppression.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 5 months ago

It isn't as though conservatives limit their derision to homosexuality. Any kind of sexual promiscuity is cause for condemnation and persecution if you're poor. This isn't homosexuality as taboo, this is sexuality as a luxury reserved for the wealthiest and most well-connected.

FFS, we've got video recordings of Donald Trump groping Rudy Giuliani in drag as part of a sketch comedy routine. Lauren Boebert gives handies out at the theater. JD Vance himself is married to a migrant of color. Vanishingly few conservatives seems to mind. This has always been a question of economic privilege, rather than some universal social taboo. Its a tool for Othering the political opposition, not policing the party leadership internally.

Wealth, along with the benefits of an obsequies mass media and mercenary police force, guarantee you can have all the Burning Man orgy tents you want just so long as you've paid off the right people.