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Standard Horner BS. If someone is actually competing: complain about everything and try to get them penalized.
Eventually F1 is going to have to implement penalties for frivolous investigations, like flopping penalties in other sports.
Hardly exclusive to Red Bull to be fair. Teams will do anything they can to get an advantage. Every team does it.
Every team does file complaints, but I feel like Horner and Toto are sort of infamous for frivolous accusations that make the other team tear their vehicles apart for inspection hoping they find something or don't and just forget a bolt somewhere.
Point is, it should be a rule for everyone. If you make an accusation and it turns into nothing, we take a point off the constructors, or something to that effect. Penalize the principal without overly penalizing the driver's for the principal's soap opera antics.
Let's leave words like 'infamous' and 'frivolous' to tabloids. Horner and Wolff are known for such actions because they both manage teams that have been fighting at the very top for years, and this is where your competitors are more likely to introduce some questionable solutions. They also get much more media attention when they complain. But neither does anything special by F1 standards.
Nah, frivolous and infamous are wholly appropriate for a message board, I'm not writing a fucking encyclopedia article.
I get where you're coming from, but I disagree that an accusation that turns out to be nothing should be penalized. Multiple teams noticing the same (potential) breach of rules on another team's car would wait for each other to file a complaint so they don't risk their points. Some of these complaints also simply result in a "clarification" of the rules.
Exactly this. Protests arenโt trying to make their competitors cars illegal, itโs asking the FiA for clarification on the rules, and if itโs illegal they have time to bring it back into compliance.
Same thing happened with his PA at the start of the year. He complained that she spoke about his inappropriate sexual advances and got her fired.
Whatever happened to her?
How that's just been swept under the rug and forgotten so quick is crazy to me
I never for a second thought he'd actually face serious consequences for his actions, obviously. But for it to be forgotten about and not mentioned anymore? It's quite annoying.
You'll never know for sure.
But the real answer certain is that they know exactly what happened, but don't have enough to break the contract with European laws without a legal battle.
So everyone made it go away.
Well, Zak Brown hasn't been quiet about Red Bull either.
Zak Brown is as bad, if not worse. Plenty of dirty underhand tricks happen every year, Horner/Wolff just get shit because they were winning