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All of that to convince no one that Israel is committing no wrongdoing
I never said Israel is perfect. Just this relentless myopic support for terrorist sympathizers is not going to work. Both sides can suck it tbh. The whole thing is a tragedy. But I see right through this "genocide isn't cool when my side isn't the one doing it". You want actual earned sympathy for anyone involved in the Israel-Palestine fiasco? Surrender. Release the hostages. Rescind and prohibit any and all related fatwas/jihads. Have the UN step in and force a 2 state solution that both sides hate but accept, and cut the random acts of terrorism BS out permanently. Sit the F down and settle this BS peacefully.
But they won't. This shit show will continue on until one side or the other loses completely and I got news for you unless something radically changes it doesn't look like it is going to be Israel.
I guess I just find it real interesting the amount of doiblethink it takes to continously push that we are "terrorist sympathizers". Or maybe I misunderstand and you're saying that Palestinians are terrorist sympathizers because seeing you're whole family erradicated and wanting revenge against those who did it is terrorism. I definitley don't support Hamas, and if it is the case that wanting revenge for dead innocents is terrorism, the the IDF are a bunch of brutal hypocrite terrorists that are being funded by the US. Also, it's kind of hard to see through "genocide" when the Lancet is putting new estimates at 8% of the population dead. I really don't think "earning" your sympathy or the sympathy of anyone that thinks like you is worth much.
It's all right there in your own statement. They shouldn't want revenge. They should want justice. ICC should absolutely get involved where crimes against humanity are concerned. Their desire for revenge takes out 'innocents' on the Israeli side and the circle of hate continues.
And as I've already said. Both sides want the complete removal of the other. Statistics only show what we all agree on: Israel is more capable of effecting their threat. So not only are both sides morally in the wrong, Hamas' is also foolish for begging to be pooped on in the first place.
And 'earning mine et al' sympathy is apparently worth something because the news constantly appeals to it.
We aren't talking about not killing Hamas though. We are talking about Palestinian civilians. You keep on sidestepping that. All comments I've seen you leave are you pretending to be this "both sides suck" person, but making no distinguishment between civilian and combatant with respect to Hamas and Palestine. You talk about Israel being justified in "getting its hands dirty to stop genocide". You generalize Palestinian civilians as terrorists for a sentiment that Israeli civilians have confessed to feeling themselves.
The ask has been, and always will be stop killing civilians, but there are no "civilians" on one side of the conflict to you, and that is why your sympathy isn't worth it. I must have missed the direct address to "Burstar's sympathy" in the article.
You just said they want revenge. So you want to say they can get revenge but still hide behind a civilian label. Nice try.
So thought-crime? They can't "hide" behind a civilian label because they felt angry about the deaths of their families? How many, realistically, are going to act on it? Because I specifically said that they want it, not that they are going to pursue it.
And fuck it, let's add to the fact that many are ACTIVELY trying to get out, and even of those, not many actually have the means or are too afraid of being killed whilst fleeing. Is that the actions of a so-called combatant?
You're arguing my point. Both sides KNOW the other wants to end their existence and everyone on both sides is doing as much as they are willing to that end. For some it is paying their taxes. Others, sending their children to a school they know harbours Hamas weapons. Some spit and throw rocks at soldiers and some pick up an AK. Israel has stopped hesitating when it comes to the 2nd and 3rd category and stopped caring about the first and frankly I don't blame them.
You know Hamas is intentionally hiding amongst the civilians to garner sympathy and you're supporting that strategy by falling for it instead of decrying that warcrime.
You don't blame the IDF. So much for the "both sides suck" facade. And I don't see how you yourself can keep arguing about Hamas warcrimes when, as you've said, civilians are supporting the cause. That would mean they are fair game under your views. You can't have a "both sides suck" opinion when you've made notes that one side should clearly be justified.
blame them... In that regard. Things like tying prisoners to the roof of vehicles I don't give a pass to.