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Climate change could return us to the pre-antibiotic era (www.salon.com)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How would we not all starve without industrial agriculture? Not sure what you mean exactly.

[–] barsquid 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think they mean more like plant-based diets where the farmers aren't using antibiotics to cause physical growth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just because they're plants doesn't make it not industrial.

[–] barsquid 7 points 4 months ago

Yes, I know. They probably should have phrased it differently. Can we agree there are fewer antibiotics on the crops, though, and that is likely what they meant?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Industrial agriculture, in the United States at least, relies extremely heavily on the use of antibiotics. If there is ever a future in which that is not the case, go ahead and support industrial agriculture if you want to (I'm keeping this strictly to the antibiotic problem). But as it is now, supporting industrial agriculture is also supporting the misuse of antibiotics and the growth of antibiotic resistant bacteria.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I knew crops used pesticides and stuff, why would they use antibiotics too?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would assume hes talking about livestock farming

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's not agriculture though, crops are. And crops are at least included in agriculture, even if you would expand the definition to also include animals, which I wouldn't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Animal agriculture is absolutely agriculture. That's why there's a term for it, called animal agriculture.