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[–] Nightwingdragon 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

if people aren’t very satisfied with normal, offering them more normal probably isn’t going to get you very far.

Here's the thing. You're right, in that Trump got elected because people were unhappy with the status quo. And Trump at least offered something different.

But what we're seeing isn't being "unhappy with the status quo". It's believing in fairy tales. It's believing in conspiracy theories. It's making it up as you go along. Worse, it's wanting to force you to adhere to it too.

I've always said that if you're in an election where your opponent is saying monkeys are flying out of your ass and terrorizing the city, and 51% of the people believe that flying monkey terrorism is a huge problem, you can try appealing to logic and saying there are no flying monkeys coming out of your ass, but you'll be doing it during your concession speech, while your opponent is not only making his victory speech but boasting about the fact that he solved the flying monkey problem on day one.

This is where we are as a society. A sizeable chunk of our society really is listening to Trump's claims about whatever is flying out of Biden's ass, and they have absolutely no appetite for things like truth or logic. Biden is trying desperately to stick to this realm of reality, but it looks more and more like he's going to be making that appeal while watching Trump's inauguration and listening to Trump's supporters cheer on the chaos.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Trump got elected because the US electoral system is undemocratic. He doesn't need 51%, not even close.

[–] TheDemonBuer 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

what we're seeing isn't being "unhappy with the status quo". It's believing in fairy tales. It's believing in conspiracy theories.

I think when people become unhappy with the status quo, they are more likely to believe in fairy tales and conspiracy theories, especially if those messages are coming from a seemingly strong leader promising a return to glory. I don't think it would be a terrible thing if Democrats tried harder to look strong and promise that they're going to make America great, only without the conspiracy theories and scapegoats. I think a lot of people really need to hear that message, and if the "good guys" aren't willing to offer that message, someone with less than honorable intentions will.

[–] kava 2 points 4 months ago

Dems promise status quo. America as a whole does not want status quo. Cost of living keeps going up while technology rips apart society in ways we would have never predicted a decade ago.

As long as the only alternative to Trump is status quo, Trump will always win. The DNC's only real concern is maintaining the current power structure. But it's like Blockbuster ignoring the rise of Netflix. The winds have changed. The future is going to be radically different for better and definitely for worse.