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Bruce Blakeman, the Nassau County executive, is recruiting “special deputies” to deploy during disaster or unrest. Opponents say the move is dangerous.

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[–] Viking_Hippie 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt it'll be well-regulated and used to defend the federal government like the ones the 2a refers to, though..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They’re training them to protect federal infrastructure and they’re still subject to gun regulations. I think it will be a political tool used to oppress the citizenry, so not the spirit of the law, but the letter.

[–] Viking_Hippie 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They’re training them to protect federal infrastructure

No matter who's president? Because fighting off rebellions was a big part of what those militias were used for.

they’re still subject to [current] gun regulations

It's WELL-regulated, not "barely regulated at all with little to no enforcement to speak of"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No matter who's president? Because fighting off rebellions was a big part of what those militias were used for.

Ostensibly. They’re obviously lying, but that’s what they say.

It's WELL-regulated, not "barely regulated at all with little to no enforcement to speak of"

It’s my understanding that the extant gun laws are legally considered to fulfill this requirement, otherwise private gun ownership wouldn’t be possible. Personally I disagree, but I’m not sure what standard would otherwise be used.

I do hope you’re correct, but I don’t trust the US government to adhere to common sense anymore. I guess we’ll see what the court says, because someone’s going to challenge this.

Or maybe he’ll get voted out in November and this will be disbanded before anything happens with it. I think that’s probably the best option, because then it doesn’t get a chance to be approved by this SCOTUS and nobody has to have their civil rights violated by this group.

[–] Viking_Hippie 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

otherwise private gun ownership wouldn’t be possible

That's the point right there: it was never about private guns for private use. That's a fiction (in both the legal sense and the colloquial one) that conservative activist judges on the SCOTUS invented to please the people bribing them.

I do hope you’re correct, but I don’t trust the US government to adhere to common sense anymore

That's the problem with legal fictions: they don't have to be correct or even make sense. If people of sufficient authority says it is so, it legally us so 😮‍💨

I don’t trust the US government to adhere to common sense anymore

Me neither.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I was interpreting it under the lens of current legal application, not reality. In reality, it’s a group of people who want to violently oppress their fellow citizens through any means possible.