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The last words my WWII veteran grandfather told me before he passed away were, "it's ok to elect a fascist as long as the other guy is slightly older." (lemmy.world)
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[–] PugJesus 67 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We must vote for Biden in November if he's still on the ticket. MUST. Fascism is NOT an acceptable alternative.

HOWEVER

The recent high-profile defections of Dem Congresscritters from the presumptive nominee and incumbent president, however, is a political crisis great enough that it probably warrants replacing Biden on the ticket, even if the ONLY issue was the loss of confidence of his party. That is a major fucking blow that you can't really get back.

So, we must vote for the Dem ticket in November, including if it is not Biden, which is currently a possibility, barring some insane situation like them offering Hitler's brain in a jar.

[–] Wogi 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Biden stepping down at this point seals the election for Trump. Full stop.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

That must be why the GOP is fighting so hard to keep him on the ballot.

[–] CleoTheWizard -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It very much does not. Biden is set to lose to Trump already, his polls are not good and they’re all indicating Trump will win in all the swing states. And I doubt voters will change their minds about him after that debate.

Kamala on the other hand already has name recognition, has a very similar platform and can take his over, and has all the funding.

If they do not switch to Kamala, we will lose. Of that I am almost certain.

[–] Wogi 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Read up on what's happened at every single contested convention and come back and tell me it's not too late to pick a different candidate.

[–] CleoTheWizard 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying that we can rely on historical precedent to meaningfully inform us about the current election cycle? I feel like that illusion should be long gone in the Democratic Party.

Look at just what happened this week. The press conference. The UN meeting. If we can’t swap, it’s a certain loss in my mind unless by some miracle people start caring about project 2025.

[–] Wogi -2 points 4 months ago

Ah yes the classic "ignore history so you can change it."