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[–] Serinus -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Corruption is a spectrum and many faceted. We don't have to bribe police or doctors here. In many ways we're much less corrupt than average. I think most of the FBI and most federal agencies are really pretty clean. The FDA and EPA and IRS might have issues, but corruption isn't really one of them.

In other ways, we have a Supreme Court to bring balance to that.

[–] disguy_ovahea 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Do you sincerely believe the police is free from corruption? What about congressional influence through the lobbying power of large corporations?

[–] Serinus 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh God no. Just that our police corruption is different. In some ways we do have less police corruption (primarily direct, individual bribes). But our police system is one of the most broken things in our country.

Corruption is a forever fight. It's important to recognize it's not binary, and to recognize the clean and good where you can.

We can't just throw up our hands and say it's all corrupt. That might even be more damaging than "both sides are the same". We have to fight for specific fixes. This shit requires nuance and takes constant effort.

[–] disguy_ovahea 6 points 4 months ago

I totally agree. They’re right in assuming there is corruption, but yes, it takes curiosity and thorough investigation to determine the areas and types of corruption. A billionaire criminal rapist pedophile running for dictator isn’t necessarily the best resource.

[–] Bytemeister 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think it would be better to say "I trust the stated principles and mandate from the people for government organizations, but I don't trust the people or groups in those organizations."

On paper, the FBI, EPA, IRS...etc make sense. But each one of them is run by people, who have agendas. They should have to provide independent, verifiable information for their actions, instead of using the name or mandate of the organization to justify their actions.

[–] Serinus 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But that's not what I'm trying to say. In general, I do mostly trust the FBI, IRS, EPA, and FDA, including the people and processes to control corruption.

I absolutely don't trust local or state police.

[–] Bytemeister 4 points 4 months ago

Do you actually trust them, or do you just agree with some of the more public things they've done recently?