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Why is the pundit class so desperate to push Biden out of the race? | Rebecca Solnit
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 12 Jul 2024
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Propaganda at its finest.
Seems pretty dumb to me really. Wtf does blue maga even mean, it's a contraddiction. It's not refined, it's just a standard trope, the same old "but both sides"
You don't know what propaganda is, or you're using it wrong to be deliberately disingenuous.
Reasonable people are very rightly worried that biden will lose to trump. Period. Reasonable people are mostly concerned with making sure trump loses. Period.
Biden is the worst choice if we want to defeat trump. If he drops out there will be a wave of enthusiasm.
People like you who are so hell bent on keeping biden, I speculate are actual trump supporters sowing discord as an attempt to stop the discussion. Maybe you are the "propagandist".
Biden dropping out is our best chance to defeat trump. Period. Even trump and republicans want him to stay in because they know that's how they stand the best chance.
Spoken like someone high on propaganda. Polling is all over the place. Unreliable. There is no one to run who will run who stands much chance against trump. Because people aren't voting for Trump because he's better. They're voting for him because he's the Republican nominee. Republicans are also experts at smearing. They and their donors control all the media. No matter who Democrats pick they will run a 24/7 campaign smearing and mudding Waters around that candidate. Even if Democrats were to pick Bernie sanders. Republicans would smear him easily.
Realistically we're well beyond the point of playing these games. Both in this cycle and in general. If people can't be bothered. They will learn just how bad fascism can be for them. And how important their votes are when they can't vote anymore.
Polling doesn't matter at this point. I am a vehement "anyone but trump" voter and I have serious doubts that Biden can be president today. Doubts I never had before the debate. My eyes and my ears work perfectly fine and pretending Biden isn't running on fumee is the actually disingenuous position.
Let me preface all this by stating that no one should hold elected office after 65. They are still welcome to advise Etc. Politics should be people looking forward to the rest of their life Not Looking Back.
With that said. Why are you suddenly concerned about Biden? An Administration is more than a single man. And I think it's safe to say that despite what a low bar it is. The Biden Administration has been one of the most positively consequential Administration in the last 40 years. Sean Hannity has spent nearly the last 6 months screeching about jacked up Joe because of how on his performance was at the State of the Union Address. Not going to lie Biden's performing slightly has left a lot to be desired period I still have faith in the administration period And if things are Really that bad The person they're wanting to run instead of him is already his VP and would just step in if the need arrose. So I really don't see what a lot of the panic is about. At least not in terms of vitamins specifically. In terms of the rot of the democratic republic? Absolutely. But not the Biden Administration specifically. A lot of the fear and concern is 100% astro turf.
We need better than all the choices we currently have. That said I have no concerns or fears that a second biden administration would do any worse than they already have.
You’re lumping reasonable people in with the propagandists. Some are not all. I’m not making a blanket statement here. Therefore I’m not talking about reasonable people.
I’m taking about the ones that openly admit they’re here to disrupt the election.