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[–] enbyecho 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

When did megacorps, billionaires and insider trading political dynasties ever have to compromise?

For starters, some random examples would include state minimum wage laws, environmental regulations (e.g. banning drilling in the arctic, banning certain chemicals, etc), and labor protections generally.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You see, when most people think of "compromise", they think of meeting halfway... When liberals and their corporate owners think of "compromise" they think "I give an inch, you give a mile"

Young people still have some fight in them (and they're brains are still working on understanding long term consequences), so often times they see their great grandpa pacifying the rich and mostly ignoring them and they think, fuck that, I'd rather fight.

[–] enbyecho 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which would be great if "fight" meant "run for office and vote". But really it means "shake fists angrily and complain online".

Go ahead folks, downvote me. But you know it's true and the date supports it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Eh... Bernie got a shit ton of them out fighting for real... They just need a leader to fight for

[–] enbyecho 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Eh… Bernie got a shit ton of them out fighting for real… They just need a leader to fight for

Oh yes, they did a great job "fighting" by showing up at rallies and make noise. Lot's of fist shaking going on. But as soon as it came time to show up to vote a fuckload didn't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But they WOULD have shown up to vote for Bernie. And all those blue no matter who Clinton voters also would have shown up. And we'd have had Bernie instead of Trump. Instead, Clinton spit in their faces, gaslit them, chased the right (who most of these people consider to truly be the enemy )and then still had the audacity to demand their vote.

But don't diminish the real fighting they actually did. They participated in one of the largest and most robust field programs US politics has seen since the civil rights movement. They knocked on millions of doors and spoke to millions of people. Often times not just pushing Bernie, but also pushing for downballot Dems as well. It's a level of engagement effort most campaigns never even attempt

[–] enbyecho 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But they WOULD have shown up to vote for Bernie.

Except they didn't. End of story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, the story ends with King Donald Trump.

[–] enbyecho 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, the story ends with King Donald Trump.

Oh look, a non-sequitur. How unique and edgy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The point is noone cares why the dems went towards the corporate right. Noone cares if Bernie got kneecapped or had no chance to begin with.

We can argue back and forth as long as we go crazy whether a more progressive administration would have been realistic.

The cold hard truth is a US dictatorship now is. It's not edgy, it's sad is what it is. Hillary got us Trump, and Biden will get us Trump.

[–] enbyecho 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The cold hard truth is a US dictatorship now is. It’s not edgy, it’s sad is what it is. Hillary got us Trump, and Biden will get us Trump.

LOL. I can't tell if it's that your are completely ignorant or just exaggerating because you think somehow that will make your point "stronger".

It doesn't. You just sound ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] enbyecho 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The cold hard truth is a US dictatorship now is

The US is not a dictatorship. Full stop.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not yet. But Trump might make it one. That's my point, electing someone that makes the US more equitable is unrealistic, but electing someone who will make it a dictatorship is not unrealistic.

[–] enbyecho 1 points 4 months ago

I don't think you have a point. Or if you do, it's fleeting and highly variable.

Good bye.