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[–] peopleproblems 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did he really fucking say that?!?!?! Goddamn prophetical

[–] PugJesus 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Someone on Shermanposting posted more of the speech. It's even more prophetic than it seems - Grant speaks on the dangers of religious instruction in schools and the need for separation of Church and State.

I do not bring into this assemblage politics, certainly not partisan politics, but it is a fair subject for soldiers in their deliberations to consider what may be necessary to secure the prize for which they battled in a republic like ours. Where the citizen is sovereign and the official the servant, where no power is exercised except by the will of the people, it is important that the sovereign — the people — should possess intelligence.

The free school is the promoter of that intelligence which is to preserve us as a free nation. If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon’s, but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition, and ignorance on the other.

Now in this centennial year of our national existence, I believe it a good time to begin the work of strengthening the foundation of the house commenced by our patriotic forefathers one hundred years ago, at Concord and Lexington. Let us all labor to add all needful guarantees for the more perfect security of free thought, free speech, and free press, pure morals, unfettered religious sentiments, and of equal rights and privileges to all men, irrespective of nationality, color, or religion.

Encourage free schools, and resolve that not one dollar of money appropriated to their support, no matter how raised, shall be appropriated to the support of any sectarian school. Resolve that the State or Nation, or both combined, shall furnish to every child growing up in the land, the means of acquiring a good common-school education, unmixed with sectarian, pagan, or atheistic tenets. Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church, and the private school supported entirely by private contributions. Keep the church and state forever separate. With these safeguards, I believe the battles which created the Army of the Tennessee will not have been fought in vain.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-the-ninth-annual-meeting-the-army-the-tennessee-des-moines-iowa

[–] peopleproblems 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wow. That last part is... Rough. With these safeguards, I believe the battles which created the Army of Tennessee will not have been fought in vain.

[–] Maggoty 5 points 4 months ago

Well we didn't keep them separate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

a good common-school education, unmixed with sectarian, pagan, or atheistic tenets

Wonder what he meant by atheistic tenets.