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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Begging the party won't help.

It's our job to COERCE the party to do our bidding. The party must know if they displease their voters there are meaningful risks and downsides for them. It's our duty to engineer those meaningful risks and downsides or else the party has every reason to ignore us.

[–] Ensign_Crab 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At the moment, we're dealing with a party that would rather lose than listen. I want to get them to listen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If you engineer meaningful risks and consequences for the party, they will HAVE to listen to you.

If you only plan to beg them politely, they could choose to ignore you. Whether or not they listened to you in this case would be completely at the pleasure of the party.

[–] Ensign_Crab 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If they're not gonna listen now, they're never gonna listen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh yea, which risks and consequences have you engineered for your truant representatives that they continue ignoring you?

[–] Ensign_Crab 2 points 5 months ago

Anyone who represents me lower than VP is a Republican. Democrats made sure of that when they pulled the funding of the progressive who was running in my district.

At the moment, just getting the party to put forward someone other than Biden is a win. I'm not in a position to engineer shit and neither are you.