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Establishing a new Fediquette (self.fediverse)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Zozano to c/[email protected]
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Old habits die hard, but there's Reddiquette which needs to be revived, and some which needs to die.

Many "golden-age" redditors remember a time when downvoting was reserved for hostility, not a different opinion. For the sake of our growing community I would like to implore everyone to be awesome to each other.

However, this place is not Reddit.

  • We don't measure in bananas here.
  • We don't need to append "edit: typo" to edited posts and comments.
  • if you see something which is worthy of a downvote: down vote and move on! Don't engage with it and feed the algorithm/engament machine so other people are exposed to it when sorting by active.
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I just replied to another user, paraphrasing this: downvotes might be perceived as the community self-policing, but if you visit r/vegan you'll see how that can make a community hostile. I'm a vegan and I can't fucking stand that place. If you have an alternative opinion, prepare to wind up on the top of controversial, where the mob has a field day.

I think some sub's had the right idea by limiting the lower voting karma to 0. Another downside is it essentially paints a target for the community before an individual has formed an opinion. It generate the hive mind we should be avoiding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In that case, downvotes should be invisible. The sorting algorithm can see them but people can't.

I don't believe that tiny communities and instances should have them on until a threshold is reached and they become "sortable".

Being visible is an aggressive moderation tool. It doesn't foster discussion. reddit devolved into downvote heavy as time went on and I hated it, most of the time it didn't make sense why things were downvoted. They work better for memes and pics, not comments (unless they are horrible) and discussions. Bad actors use the downvote for bad acting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got nothing more to say, you hit the nail on the head.

It reminds me of grading movies. If someone says to me its an 8/10, that is useless information. If they tell me it has some action, I'm intruged. Then they tell me it's a Marvel movie, and I lose all interest.

However, I will say that it was entertaining as fuck to see /u/spez's comment karma tank - but he's not really a member of the reddit community, just the warden hearing the prisoners shout "fuck you!" before starting a riot and a partial breakout.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're being really thoughtful and this is a good discussion.

I read through all the other comments and I'm disagreeing with a few other viewpoints from others pretending like aggressive downvoting/brigading is an individual's problem.

Perhaps a feature request to Lemmy could be an option. Rather than a binary choice.

Votes as is, upvotes visible/downvotes not visible but measured, up/down not visible but measured, no downvotes, no votes at all.

Discussion instances could work around what works best for sorting and discussion, general could work what's best for them etc.

Forums didn't have upvotes for years and it worked just fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its a much better discussion than the one I'm having elsewhere, that's for sure. I sure do love being strawmanned. I was hoping it would be more than a week before I encountered this lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the problem with having an opinion.

Are you bring downvoted heavily? That's the only way I know to know if I agree with you or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm only slightly in the negative numbers. So you're completely justified in starting from a place of skepticism.

Come back later. Once I reach -5 you can be vindicated in knowing that you were right all along.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not about being right cause I don't know what right is. The downvotes tell me if you're wrong, that's different. I can then feel safe.

These posts are sarcasm, by the way. Dont start downvoting, people!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're absolutely right. When the upvotes are high on a post I have a different opinion about, that just means they're all suffering from mass delusion.

These posts are NOT sarcasm. These are sincerely held beliefs and would (and will) be regarded as admissible evidence in court.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I might try turning off "Scores" in the settings so I can rawdog my feelings onto others posts and comments.

It's a brave new world.

Edit: Did it. I literally do not know what to think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck yea cant, raw dawg those comments ya raw dawg, shit cant, dawg cant

(BTW this is not hostile, this is just how us Aussies talk to each other, it's a sign of endearment)