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[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] duderium2 -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Someone who worships private property like a god.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So basically no one here in a community about authoritarianism and also not something anyone here would approve of?

Maybe you're getting irate at the wrong group.

[–] duderium2 -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you support the abolition of landlords?

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This is not about me nor what I believe. However, even if I did believe that one person should be allowed to rent their home to someone else, that doesn't mean I worship private property like a god.

'Worship' and 'god' are words that have meanings. Perhaps you should look them up if you think 'believes someone should be legally allowed to rent their home to someone else' applies to either word.

[–] duderium2 -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So if a landlord uses the police to throw a single mom out of her home because she can’t pay rent, how is that not authoritarianism?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, you're moving the goalposts now. This was about worshiping property as a god.

Is believing that someone can rent their home to someone else worshiping property as a god? If so, please define 'worship' and 'god' as they apply to this context.

[–] duderium2 -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is believing that someone can rent their home to someone else worshiping property as a god?

Yes, it means you support parasitism, slavery, and guzzling the blood of workers like the vampire you are.

If so, please define ‘worship’ and ‘god’ as they apply to this context.

Worship: the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity. "the worship of God"

God: (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being. 2. (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity. "a moon god"

You worship capital like a god.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it means you support parasitism, slavery, and guzzling the blood of workers like the vampire you are.

Really? If I rent my house to my friend because I've moved to another city and they need a place to live and they get to cover maintenance costs and not have to go into debt with a mortgage, that means I support parasitism, slavery and guzzling the blood of workers?

Worship: the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity. “the worship of God”

God: (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being. 2. (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity. “a moon god”

None of that applies to owning or renting a home. In any way.

[–] duderium2 -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Really? If I rent my house to my friend because I’ve moved to another city and they need a place to live and they get to cover maintenance costs and not have to go into debt with a mortgage, that means I support parasitism, slavery and guzzling the blood of workers?

Yes. How does all that blood taste?

None of that applies to owning or renting a home. In any way.

Okay parasite.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I see, so the thing to do that would not be parasitic enslavement and vampirism would be to put someone else in debt and enrich myself by selling the house.

You're right, why didn't I see this before? Profit over giving a friend a home is the right way to go about things. Thank you for explaining it to me.

[–] duderium2 -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, the thing to do would be to abolish landlordism and ensure that no one is in debt for necessities. The USA currently has twenty million empty housing units and half a million homeless people. This is where your reasonable moderation gets you.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cool, I'll get right on abolishing landlordism with my... magic wand?

But until it recharges, maybe renting houses to friends isn't worshiping property like a god?

[–] duderium2 -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have you heard of revolutions? Tell me what tends to happen to landlords during communist revolutions.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think I would be able to start a revolution? Have you started one?

[–] duderium2 -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s not easy to start one, but it’s easy to educate, agitate, and organize, which is what I do constantly. It’s also easy to avoid expressing opinions (“why can’t I exploit my friend?”) that will put you in a re-education camp (at the very least) when the revolution comes.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I see, forcing my friend to go into debt when I could give them a way to avoid doing that would be not exploiting them. And thus worshiping property like a god. Because if the revolution happens, I will be shot for helping my friend have a home.

This all makes a great deal of sense.

[–] duderium2 -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If I were you, I would simply not worship the capitalist blood cult.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you've already made it clear that refusing to let my friend live in my otherwise empty home at what it would have cost me, making no profit for myself, rather than making them go into debt to buy a home and selling my home for a profit is the only way to get free from the capitalist blood cult I worship.

No profits is a cornerstone of capitalism, after all.

[–] duderium2 -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You’ve already made it clear that you are incapable of imagining a world without the blood cult known as capitalism.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 4 months ago

I'm capable of imagining it, but it's not the world I live in. I live in a world where people go into massive debt if they buy houses and those houses cost money to maintain whether I like it or not.

But I will take your "helping friends means you're a capitalist vampire" criticism to heart and never help anyone again. Altruism is, after all, evil. Anti-capitalist Ayn Rand said so.