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It's time to see if the polls are right.

Previously: the voting megathread

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[–] sanguinepar 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Peter Mandelson? I think he had a point in that Starmer has changed the party from unelectable with Corbyn (which sadly, they were) to a more than realistic prospect for a sensible alternative to the Tories.

You're right of course that the Conservatives have utterly fucked the pooch (not to mention the country) but Starmer has nonetheless made a massive change in making the party palatable to many, many more people (not that I personally agree with quite a lot of his policies and policy reversals)

[–] Luvs2Spuj 7 points 4 months ago

That's a fair take, and yes it was Mandelson.

[–] Luvs2Spuj 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Interestingly, Labour have less of the vote (proportionaly) than when Corbyn was at the helm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I agree, and I do infinitely prefer Corbyn. I didn't vote Labour this time. I think the nuance here is that Corbyn motivated Tory voters to vote against him, whereas Starmer was less threatening to them, so they didn't worry so much about vote splitting or staying home