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[–] nexguy 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Every alternative supports genocide. Either in Gaza or Ukraine (edit: or both)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I can name three who aren't: Cornel West, Jill Stein and Claudia De la Cruz.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cool, come back when any of them have a single chance in hell of winning

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They would if people didn’t vote against their own interests

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I admire the optimism but the entire system needs to be reworked from the ground up and you know it

[–] nexguy 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

You think West and Stein care to stop Putin? Think again. Edit: their pro Putin stances may be worse than Trumps.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You think West and Stein care to stop Putin?

both have spoken out against his illegal invasion, so yes.

[–] nexguy 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Biden has spoken out about atrocities in Gaza... words mean nothing. Both West and Stein want to side with Putin and give him everything he's stolen.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Both West and Stein want to side with Putin and give him everything he’s stolen

neither of them have said that.

[–] nexguy 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you support Stein make sure you don't look into her statements about Russia. It'll make it easier to continue supporting her.

“Russia’s invasion was a provoked response to the bigger, more murderous and illegal game plan of US empire - in which ‘overextending’ and defeating Russia is only one small part of the picture… In 2014 the US backed a coup in Ukraine led by far-right insurrectionists. The installation of the new government was a giant step towards the goal of adding Ukraine to NATO - and putting hostile bases and nuclear-capable missiles right on Russia's border.” – Jill Stein February 24, 2022

Should the U.S. provide military assistance to defend Ukraine from Russia? PUBLIC STATEMENTS "No, we should stay out of conflicts that do not directly threaten us"

[–] VictoriaAScharleau 2 points 3 months ago

this quote does not say what you say it says.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the only place i can find your quote is in a far right think tank called "third way" and the link they provide does not have the full quote they claim she gave. can you provide a source with the full quote?

[–] nexguy 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

30 seconds of searching found an entire speech where Stein blames the U.S. for Putin's unhinged invasion.

https://globalgreen.news/us-empire-provoking-war-with-russia-former-us-green-party-presidential-candidate-jill-stein/

Stein is probably the worst candidate as far as Ukraine is concerned.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

this, also, is not a source for that quote. your characterization that she supports russia is also not supported by what you just linked.

[–] nexguy 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is literally a YouTube video in that link of her views. Putin wants to keep what he's stolen. Stein wants peace with the current front lines as the border. Unless you agree with her in that I suppose.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau 0 points 3 months ago

demanding peace is not supporting russia. that video, also, does not support the quote that you bandied about earlier. can you source your claim?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Could you be any more racist?

Note: this graph is from November 2023 (4,100 children killed), we are in July 2024 and it is much worse now in Gaza (over 15,000 children killed and hospitals are out of service and can't keep count), but you clearly don't see Palestinians as humans. To suggest that Putin is worse after more than 8 months of a genocide in Gaza is insulting.