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[–] fukurthumz420 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] lennybird 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Whitmer. Shapiro. Newsom, even.

Before anyone tries to claim polls show they wouldn't do better than Biden against Trump let me remind people that this is without them having the endorsement of the dnc or the inevitable viral media attention they'd receive from endorsements from Obama or Biden himself. They'd surge overnight.

You know who isn't surging? Biden. He's been steadily declining in every single data-point, and the debate didn't help.

So you know what 70% of voters have a problem with? How old the two current candidates are.

Give them what they want. Give Americans new exciting shit to vote for. This is the country that watches the Kardashians and American Idol for christ sake.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Maybe. On the other hand, changing out your candidate after one debate doesn't inspire much confidence. And you lose the advantage a sitting president usually has in elections.

A new candidate might indeed do better, but the DNC is risk averse as hell. I don't see them having the balls to make a move like this.

[–] lennybird 5 points 4 months ago

If it was about a poor debate performance akin to Obama vs Romney debate 1 I'd be inclined to agree.

The problem is this wasn't really about the debate. It was about revealing to the country Biden's clear senility problems, which at 81, won't get better but certainly get worse.

And second to that: If Biden was 10 points ahead in the polls I'd also say okay maybe we just ride this out.

But he's not. In fact relative to 2020 he's been 10 pts behind pre-Debate. Losing in every battleground state as well.

To me I see the car crash happening up ahead and want to jump while we still have time.

Sadly I agree with your final comment. Today at Camp David was the day Biden could back out if his closest advisors and family pulled him aside. But they're encouraging him to keep going.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know what inspires even less confidence? Biden.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The track record of the Biden administration is solid. Why should that change?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

He could be a bowl of jelly and it wouldn't make a difference. He's just the head of the Executive branch, where his job is pretty much signing/vetoing bills, hiring cabinet members, and nominating judges (with advice from said cabinet members). The alternative is a Nazi supported by the lines of the swastika-waving Nazis seen in Florida.

[–] Linkerbaan 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] fukurthumz420 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i love bernie but he's not an option

[–] Linkerbaan 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Only establishment israel dems are an option right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I remember democrats saying bernie was inelectable. Where is that "he is unelectable" energy now that biden is unelectable?