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[–] givesomefucks 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (34 children)

For one, Biden would have to willingly give up the nomination in order to release delegates already pledged to him.

Factually not true...

The DNC can rewrite the rules before the convention and nominate anyone they want.

As their lawyers have told judges, they're a private organization that can name anyone as the candidate. That was their defense for accusations that they already rig primaries.

A second problem is the public doesn’t know any other Democrat nearly as well as they know Biden, and it would be difficult to introduce someone to the public at this late date without them being defined by Donald Trump, the Republicans and Fox News in the worst possible ways.

Literally anyone that becomes the Dem nominee will have nationwide name recognition in 24 hours.

The most common reason for voting Biden is "to stop trump" so any replacement shares the most important quality Dem voters want that Biden actually meets.

Like, sure, this would have been so much easier if we had an actual primary and the people closest to Biden hadn't spent four years hiding him and lying about his mental capabilities. But they didn't. They kept repeating it was too late for anyone except Biden.

They're still saying it, but it's still not true.

[–] Poayjay 32 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Good points. However, I would argue that the DNC would absolutely fuck up picking a new nominee. They would pick some “centrist” unlikeable democrat that would try to appeal to a moderate middle that just doesn’t exist. They would run a flaccid campaign and manage to piss off everybody trying to appeal to everybody. Republicans would absolutely capitalize on the chaos.

[–] orclev 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In before they nominate fucking Hillary... again. It would be one thing to claim name recognition if people actually liked Biden, but nobody fucking likes Biden. People stomach Biden because the alternative is so much worse. This is why we so desperately need some kind of proportional voting system, literally any kind. The public needs a way of telling the parties "here's how we feel about these issues" without it being a binary choice between bad and even worse.

[–] givesomefucks 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right

Biden appointed Jamie Harrison, it's very very unlikely that Jamie Harrison nominates anyone else. And if he does, it will be another moderate that names Jamie Harrison head of the DNC again.

Because the people running the DNC care more about personal political power than stopping trump.

Just like the problem with republicans isn't just trump, it's the people behind the scenes that also need addressed.

The problem with the DNC isn't just Biden, it's the people Biden put in charge of the DNC.

The party can't survive without the voters, we're the important part.

If the DNC refuses to acknowledge that, it won't be the first time voters left a party behind to die without them.

At a certain point the corruption is bad enough we need to start over. It won't be easy, but at a certain point it's the only option.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Be that as it may, with the stakes in this upcoming election, now is (to my deep frustration and chagrin) absolutely not the time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Okay but... worse than Biden is already doing?

At this point is there anyone, anyone at all, who isn't merely voting for "not Trump" on the "left"?

Conversely, there are a few on the right who actively like Trump.

And there may be a handful of people - in key spots though - who may vote for a younger candidate?

[–] CaptainSpaceman 1 points 5 months ago

Thats good for business!

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