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[–] dhork 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

This is getting down voted here, but it shouldn't be just because some people disagree. The NYT editorial board coming out with this is a Big Deal. It has the potential to change the race. A lot of influential people still read it.

Key Democratic leaders have been lining up to support Biden, but of course they will. He is their guy. We don't know what private conversations are happening, though. If Biden can be convinced to drop out, all these people who are defending his decision to stay in now will defend his decision to back out.

No matter how many op-eds people write, though, Biden will stay in the game unless two things happen:

  1. his polls take a further nosedive -- but even then he may be convinced he can make that up

  2. his donors dry up.

Even if Biden drops out, all the tankies here need to accept the fact that the Democratic nominee will not be some progressive darling who will stop shipping arms to Israel. It will be whats-her-name, and the entire party will expect us all to get behind her. Get over yourselves. Hold your nose and vote for her, no matter how much she loves cops.

And he's not getting fired at the convention. The only off-ramp for Biden is if he backs out entirely. That means formally resigning and giving whats-her-name not only a campaign, but a country to run. Good luck!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Do you know what the word tankie means? Because I don’t think the people you are describing are tankies. Progressives, democratic socialists, maybe some anarchists, or just Palestinian liberation people of all stripes but tankies no. Tankies are not supporting the Democratic Party because they don’t generally believe in democracy. If they were to vote it would be third party or maybe even for Trump in the hopes the west will destroy itself.

Tankies are dangerous so please don’t dilute the meaning of the word that way.

[–] Ensign_Crab -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do you know what the word tankie means?

On lemmy it means anyone to the left of Joe Manchin and always has.

[–] disguy_ovahea -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Tankies are the left tip of the horseshoe in horseshoe theory. a.k.a. Marxist–Leninists, or authoritarian communists

[–] Ensign_Crab -3 points 2 days ago

Yes, except on lemmy, where it means anyone to the left of Manchin.

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