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What if we didn't bully anyone for how they looked, including the rich and intelligent and those of questionable morality?
Yeah this billionaire techbro of future dystopia is so bullied. His sister would know.
What if we didn’t forge a relevant equivalence for every criticism in order to negate it?
I believe she's telling the truth. Why not mention that instead?
I guess I think bullying one person based on looks makes it easier to bully another second person based on looks, even if the first person is a jerk. It just makes a culture in which that's acceptable.
It’s more a commentary on photo editors, really. Honestly just like they’re going to run a picture of Taylor Swift for the Ticketmaster story, they’re going to find (easily, apparently) a goofy picture of OpenAIguy to run next to his stories.
I’m not bullying anyone, least of all this billionare crypto pinhead. I’m being mean, yes but if that’s your beef then I dunno what to tell ya. There are some people it’s okay to be mean to in public forums where they’re not present. (Are you Sam? Hey if so, you suck, otherwise please disregard, I’m sure you(not-Sam) are quite nice.)
there’s also the part where all too often stans go “waaaaaah you can’t be mean [to my hero] just about a photo, that’s not fair!!” and it’s generally not good to let that shit slide either
I wonder if the esteemed poster would say the same thing about all the coverage of musk’s bumbling fuckery that also use photos which show him at all the times he didn’t have the situation pre-cultivated to capitalize on it and send a lying image
Also that person created their account 14 hours ago and has been posting continuously, like where do they find the time to do stuff like this? EDIT: It's also hilarious that they responded to someone actually being demeaned for their appearance like half an hour before coming here. That totally makes you the good guy standing up for these injustices.
Someone I know died, so I've been off of work and literally doing nothing. Any more questions about me asshole?
Also, found the bullying asshole that wants to justify being a pos!
Sorry for your loss. Me too, fwiw.
Sorry for your loss too. I'm still numb but no longer hysterical. Lemmy takes the pain away a bit.
It’s good for something 😄
I really don't like Musk primarily because of his treatment of trans people, but it would be nice in which we didn't have a culture in which making fun of people's appearances was something that was acceptable in certain situations, because everyone will always think their bullying is the acceptable exception because... (it's funny/appropriate/deserved/etc).
i am not saying it's bad to use terrible photos of Musk that don't put him in the best light possible, because no one should aggrandize him.
No, I am not Sam.
You are commenting on how he looks to be mean. That's bullying.
I know it's hard for you to get, but it makes it more socially acceptable for someone else to bully someone who might look a bit nerdy, perhaps a young computer nerd who you would find morally pure. I doubt Sam would care or reads lemmy, but it creates a climate in which this is socially acceptable.
It’s hard for you to get that Sam is a public figure. Your tone policing is well-meant but you have no jurisdiction here.
I'm not policing anything. People can say whatever the fuck they want, but I can call them out on it.
I've never claimed "jurisdiction" on a federated platform over what people can or can't say, and all psuedointellectual malpropisms aside, bullying public figures over how they look creates a culture in which this is acceptable behavior. It's your choice if you want to support that type of cultural environment, and you can say anything, but if you support a culture of looking down on people's appearances which they often don't control, then your a vile asshole at best and a eugenisist at worse.
All I’m saying is this guy is terrible. I could type out 400 words about why and how, but I think we’re all on the same page there. So if he’s also got a stupid face, and he’s above the law and can’t feel pain why not use his stupid face as a kind of shorthand for his overall terribleness?
I’m not suggesting this is okay to do in general, it’s a special case. Hitler had a stupid face and I’ll be mean to him too, and if an impressionable young mind decides that means its okay to bully schoolmates well that’s not okay, it’s a problem that existed since time immemorial anyway, and the difference between the two is vast.
I know lots of people with stupid faces, myself included, and i wouldn’t hassle them for it - that would be mean. This guy, though? Yeah he’s almost demanded it. I’m not unsympathetic to your point; there are a lot of powerful public figures who are terrible and who are women, and I’d disagree with hassling them about their stupid face because there’s a whole secondary layer of demeaning women that’s not okay the way I look at it. But Elmo, thisguy, trump - all awful, awful men who also look ridiculous and i believe them to be fair game for mockery. Mockery, in service to taking down awful and powerful people, is allowed. It’s fine. IMO.
yeah I’m deleting your posts cause this is just the paradox of tolerance and you know it