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One House Democrat said he spoke for others in the wake of the president’s stunningly feeble debate performance on Thursday: “The movement to convince Biden to not run is real.”

The House member, an outspoken defender of the president, said that House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer should consider “a combined effort” to nudge President Joe Biden out of the race.

Crestfallen by the president’s weak voice, pallid appearance and meandering answers, numerous Democratic officials said Biden’s bet on an early debate to rebut unceasing questions about his age had not only backfired but done damage that may prove irreversible. The president had, in the first 30 minutes of the debate, fully affirmed doubts about his fitness.

A second House Democrat said “reflection is needed” from Biden about the way ahead and indicated the private text threads among lawmakers were even more dire, with some saying outright that the president needed to drop out of the race.

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[–] notanaltaccount 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The conspiracy theorists all say Joe is supposed to step down and Gavin Newsom somehow is added to the ticket which then will win. These conspiracy theorists also say that candidates are selected in advance by the powers that be and it’s all pagentry to deceive the gullible masses. If this is true, then Joe needs no convincing and this is already decided.

[–] RubberElectrons 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'd like to know what you're taking so I never take it.

[–] notanaltaccount 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just had a soda and a vegan burger. So... I guess eat meat and avoid high fructose corn syrup? 🫤

[–] RubberElectrons 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Phew, I ate a beyond burger earlier and I'm still cogent and coherent. Guess it's the corn syrup, just like my dad warned me.

[–] notanaltaccount 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't believe this conspiracy theory (or not believe it), I am just saying it exists. But yes, without the corn syrup, I would probably be a better and sexier person.

[–] RubberElectrons -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Then why parrot chafe into the conversation at all?

[–] notanaltaccount 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am adding it for posterity in case it does happen. I don't believe or disbelieve this, but I have seem "conspiracy theories" proven true later and sometimes it's like people forget the "crazy" people mentioned the truth months or years prior. I want this here so that if proven true, the word "misinformation" will start to be viewed skeptically as the Ministry of Truth word that it is, divorced from science and discourse.

[–] RubberElectrons 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Adding distracting points into the public discourse when people are seeking clarity doesn't seem like a noble goal.

What do you get out of it at the end, the ability to say "told you so"?

What if Kamala does step in due to the very real odds of a medical issue happening, then shall we start believing conspiracy theorists on other points?

My point remains the same, you're occluding understanding of the situation, both currently and in the future, and I don't like that.

[–] notanaltaccount 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Others are occluding discourse by banning discussion as misinformation to control all narratives, then acting as though conspiracy theorists weren't correct. This narrative control is from an elite whose lies are vast enough to occlude the sun.

[–] RubberElectrons 1 points 5 months ago

Overly dramatic verbiage aside, I'm not seeing any discussion here, of utility anyway.

Good day.

[–] AbidanYre 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The conspiracy theorists all say

He pretty clearly stated that it was the conspiracy nuts in his first comment.

[–] RubberElectrons 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Poor fella. Read my question again, but this time try to think about it.

[–] AbidanYre 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's adorable when someone who doesn't understand the concept of discussing an idea's existence tries to be condescending.

For example, I can say "there are people who think the earth is flat" while not endorsing the idea of a flat earth.

[–] RubberElectrons 1 points 5 months ago

Cute and useless, as is customary for ya.

People are looking for clarity about all this, I used the word chafe on purpose.

Think about it.

[–] iopq 3 points 5 months ago

Oh God, Gavin Newsom ruined SF, which gave him the credentials to ruin California. Now it gives him the credentials to ruin the country?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I'd be cool with that