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A group of undecided Latino voters said they would vote for President Joe Biden after watching his Thursday night debate with former President Donald Trump.

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A clip posted on X shows the group being interviewed by a journalist. One man said he would vote for Biden because "Trump sounded like a crazy liar," according to Matt A. Barreto, professor of Political Science and Chicana/o & Central American Studies at UCLA.

The man being interviewed said Trump "said the same thing time after time" and was not answering questions or "saying how he would fix things," according to a Newsweek translation.

He went on to admit that "Biden was indeed a bit slow in talking," saying the president "has a stutter" but believes Biden explained "what he has done and what he is still doing while president.

"After being undecided for a little while, I think today, I switched to Biden," he added.

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[–] taiyang 48 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean, a sample of 8 is not really a sample, but I can see it being true for some undecided voters if those voters are savvy to know a lie when they see one (plus not everyone cares about the age narrative).

That said, how is anyone undecided at this point? I wouldn't exactly trust them to breathe and walk at the same time, let alone vote informed.

Doom and gloom aside, we're still a few months out so things happening now aren't going to make a huge difference. I just wish this wasn't all up to indecisive people in indecisive states...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Not saying I get it, but most undecided voters I know are undecided between voting for Biden and not voting. They don't seem to care about the implications of a Trump presidency, and nothing can get through to them. They just don't want to vote for Biden.

Obligatory, I'm holding my nose in November

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

i didn't want to vote for Biden in 2020, either, so i voted Green.

i was in NY at the time, so my vote didn't matter, but now that i'm a in red/swing state, I'm def voting Biden just to cut across that Trump edge.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Agreed.

'undecided' = "unsure if I give a fuck enough to go vote for my side"

This seems to have been true for awhile now. The two parties are so different, it's hard to imagine anyone bouncing between the two as if they were close enough to compare.

Which is honestly why I find a lot of the democratic campaigning and rhetoric weird. It seems to still be trying to cater to a group I don't think exists, instead of trying to excite their existing voter base enough into actually voting.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wow imagine that someone might not have all the time you do to research politics in America. Or maybe they just aren't smart enough right?

How are so many replies here full of this blind nonsense.

Did it ever occur to any of you spoiled fucks that politics usually ranks below:

  1. Work
  2. Taking care of family members
  3. Cleaning/maintaining property and equipment
  4. Spending free time with family
  5. Taking care of personal medical conditions

You can't imagine a single person who say works 2 or 3 jobs and has no time left for politics? Oh right they should probably just know already who's the right person to vote for, huh? How stupid they must be right?

And then y'all use that as evidence the country is going to shit and full of stupid people. Y'all are so fucking arrogant and none of it is earned.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd be impressed if someone was so busy they literally couldn't decide if they were pro-racist or not pro-racist. Politics is no longer a complicated question of policy but a simple division of core ethical values in America.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right, because half of america is racist. Got it. Good take.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's less than half, but ya pretty much

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Well I guess I hope they die off soon then huh!

[–] Atom 16 points 3 days ago

I agree with you. My thinking is, as a politically active person who is around politically active people from all over the spectrum, that no one has really heard from Trump in the past 3 years, besides the ones that wanted too. I've heard his voice maybe 10 times? Heard about him, of course, but not from him.

While the debate was an absolute shitshow, Trump was Trump. He reminded everyone for 90 minutes what it was like to have him in every room, on every channel, at every dinner table, and in every conversation. Undecideds are who they are, but they didn't like that in 2020 when they voted for Biden. People's memories are short and I think they forgot how terrible he was.