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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not arguing this. Socialism has never worked anywhere that is even remotely comparable to America. This is a fact.

It has, mind explaining what you mean when you say it hasn't? Does improving life expectancy, literacy rates, housing rates, scientific progress, reducing poverty, and more not count as success?

I don’t argue against people that dispute facts. The facts do that themselves.

What facts have you presented? So far you've been sharing your opinion.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah. I do mind. As I’ve said, I’m not engaging with you on this. Your bad faith false equivalence rhetoric is not worthy of discussion because you have NO MODELS to compare against America.

So your life expectancy,” your “literacy rates,” your “housing rates,” your scientific progress” and your “poverty reduction” are irrelevant things to compare with.

You HAVE to know this.

Again, there is NO WORKING MODEL that can show pure socialism working in America. And you cannot provide one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah. I do mind. As I’ve said, I’m not engaging with you on this. Your bad faith false equivalence rhetoric is not worthy of discussion because you have NO MODELS to compare against America.

How have I been bad faith? What part has been false-equivalence? What do you mean by a Model, are you referring to another country with similar material conditions? There can't be, as America is history's most developed and exploitative empire, and no former empire has become Socialist straight from said Empire.

So your life expectancy,” your “literacy rates,” your housing rates,” your scientific progress” and “poverty reduction” are irrelevant things to compare.

So improving conditions is irrelevant, got it. Is your point that you want these to lower, like what happened in the Russian Federation?

Again, there is NO WORKING MODEL that can show pure socialism working in America. And you cannot provide one.

I'm sure I could if you ever once explained what you meant by this.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

american socialist enclaves: the swamp maroons, the anabaptists

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What?

[–] VictoriaAScharleau 2 points 4 months ago

they were haranguing you for proof socialism works in the USA. I have the answer

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

We’re done here bud. You can’t provide evidence that socialism will work- your point is entirely irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean? I have already provided evidence.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Done, bud.