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Is it practically impossible for a newcomer selfhost without using centralised services, and get DDOSed or hacked? (self.selfhosted)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Maroon to c/selfhosted

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I understand that people enter the world of self hosting for various reasons. I am trying to dip my toes in this ocean to try and get away from privacy-offending centralised services such as Google, Cloudflare, AWS, etc.

As I spend more time here, I realise that it is practically impossible; especially for a newcomer, to setup any any usable self hosted web service without relying on these corporate behemoths.

I wanted to have my own little static website and alongside that run Immich, but I find that without Cloudflare, Google, and AWS, I run the risk of getting DDOSed or hacked. Also, since the physical server will be hosted at my home (to avoid AWS), there is a serious risk of infecting all devices at home as well (currently reading about VLANS to avoid this).

Am I correct in thinking that avoiding these corporations is impossible (and make peace with this situation), or are there ways to circumvent these giants and still have a good experience self hosting and using web services, even as a newcomer (all without draining my pockets too much)?

Edit: I was working on a lot of misconceptions and still have a lot of learn. Thank you all for your answers.

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[–] just_another_person 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Firewall, Auth on all services, diligent monitoring, network segmentation (vlans are fine), and don't leave any open communications ports, and you'll be fine.

Further steps would be intrusion detecting/banning like crowdsec for whatever apps leave world accessible. Maybe think about running a BSD host and using jails.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Freebsd here with jails, very smooth running and low maintenance. Can't recommend it enough

[–] s38b35M5 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Love jails. My server didn't move with me to Central America, and I miss Free/TrueNAS jails

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dw truenas core is dead/EoL so it's either truenas scale (Debian) or freebsd now

[–] s38b35M5 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

EoL? They're releasing betas regularly and announced 13.3 for Q2. You mean how they're sort of winding down with scale taking the bulk of dev cycles? Not much to change with the platform, and security fixes will be backported to CORE. I think SCALE still doesn't fit my use-case, hut when it does, and jails go away with CORE, I'll shed a tear and pour one out for my homie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The devs said there will never be any newer versions after this release, maintenance only