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[–] jimmydoreisalefty -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, we do not agree on that matter as well.

I see it more closely to this saying:

A riot is the language of the unheard - Martin Luther King Jr.

Thanks for sharing more information though!

[–] elbarto777 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Lol nice trolling attempt! Trying to associate Dr. King with the very people he would oppose. B+ for effort. Not bad.

(I didn't downvote you, by the way.)

[–] jimmydoreisalefty -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not a trolling attempt.

When people are not heard or believe they are being ignored, they tend to become or try more extreme measures or a way to fight back what they may see a detriment to their wellbeing or society.

Hence the quote:

A riot is the language of the unheard - Martin Luther King Jr.

[–] elbarto777 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Let's burn all Jews alive in front of the Capitol!"

Sure that will bring a lot of sympathy to poor, unheard, misunderstood nazis.

Context is everything.

And thank you for making me do a godwin.

Good trolling, but no marks this time since it didn't add anything new.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am not sure what you are trying to get at, but it seems you keep pushing the extremes, just to push...?

Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law of Nazi analogies, is an Internet adage asserting: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches

The Palestinian people are experiencing a genocide, they have tried peaceful methods and negotiating with the regime oppressing them, when that fails people try anything to escape the prison that was imposed on them.

My previous reply was not mean to be seen a bringing sympathy, it was meant to show empathy to another group you do not agree with.

You keep using a word, I do not think you know the meaning of or using it correctly...

Or maybe you are just using it as a label to dismiss people that do not agree or think like you, more likely?

Troll: In slang, a troll is a person who posts deliberately offensive or provocative messages online or who performs similar behaviors in real life. The methods and motivations of trolls can range from benign to sadistic.

[–] elbarto777 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh this is entertaining. Let's continue, then!

My previous reply was not mean to be seen a bringing sympathy, it was meant to show empathy to another group you do not agree with.

Which group would that be, if you can clarify?

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Getting past the owner class dividing the working class, infighting over politics and culture war may be fun for some, but I think it is more important for the working class to come together.

Empathy helps us, to understand people you do not agree with or that may not think like we do, so we may join in as working class people vs the owner class.

We should focus our actions, time, and resources on Direct Action, Mutual Aid, and Community Outreach… No War but Class War!

[–] elbarto777 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh this is entertaining. Let's continue, then!

My previous reply was not mean to be seen a bringing sympathy, it was meant to show empathy to another group you do not agree with.

Which group would that be, if you can clarify?

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

“[The Jan 6 traitors] believed that the election they had just voted in had been unfairly conducted.

I thought you would be able to tell, just from the context, the quote above should help understand the group of people I am talking about.

Showing empathy and understanding why people do certain things can help us come together as working class people, so we may change the systematic problems our society faces.

Again, this quote:

A riot is the language of the unheard - Martin Luther King Jr.

[–] elbarto777 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That's what I thought. You were talking about the traitors.

Nope. Fuck them. Fuck them all.

The other sides have been trying to reach out to them for more than a decade now (see how I am saying sides, including those that are still in the GOP?), and they have spit the extended hand because it's brown, because it's gay, because it's not Christian, because it's not "American enough" - or because they don't think like them. They don't compromise. They don't "show empathy." They are deplorable shit stains.

They are the ones who celebrate the assassination of Dr. King.

So, stop spewing bullshit.

And good effort again for trying to veer the point away from the main topic:

Tucker Carlson is a traitor who is still knowingly disseminating false information about the elections. He is blindly following a convicted felon, rapist traitor.

I didn't write all of the above for you. I wrote for everyone else reading who could fall into your bullshit.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I still do not agree with your way of labeling people who do not agree with your way of thinking or for agreeing to what you are for.

These are just owner class dividing tactics used by their ilk, the duopoly and the status quo, we must be able to have a civil conversation with other working class people.

It is okay to not agree with them, but working class people need to see past the tribal/culture/politic wars that are only good to divide the working class.

Thank you for sharing your views, I hope we may come to an understanding on other topics in different posts!

No War but Class war!

[–] elbarto777 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Tucker Carlson is a traitor, and everyone participating in the January 6 riots is a traitor who doesn't deserve empathy.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That same smear logic can, will, and is used against the people you are for (willing to listen to).

Again, that is just tribal/culture/politicial war talking points, that are used to divide the working class.

I do not think we will come to a compromise, currently, when it comes to this way of labeling people you do not agree with.

[–] elbarto777 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tucker Carlson is a traitor, and everyone participating in the January 6 riots is a traitor who doesn't deserve empathy.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A riot is the language of the unheard - Martin Luther King Jr.

[–] elbarto777 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 4 months ago

hahaha, I concur!

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