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The country’s aging population and low fertility rate jeopardizes the solvency of Social Security and the Medicare program, according to a new study by Brookings

The immigration crisis  has become a recurring theme in social gatherings and political debates, and is the main issue of the U.S. presidential election. Amid this discussion, one certainty stands out: while it’s well known that migrants have a need to live in the United States, a study has highlighted that the country needs them too.

Twenty percent of U.S. workers were not born in the United States, and it is expected that in the near future more than seven million more migrants will be needed for the labor market. That’s according to a study by Brookings, which warns about how the higher-than-expected increase in pensioners following the Covid-19 pandemic will affect the U.S. economy.

As the baby boomer generation approaches age 80, two challenges are facing the U.S. economy: providing staff to care for the elderly and ensuring the solvency of Social Security and the Medicare program.

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[–] Bye 32 points 4 months ago (14 children)

Why do they need immigrants? There are people here now who need jobs, they can do it.

If I hear “immigrants will accept lower wages” one more fucking time I’m going to lose it, that’s just an intentional creation of a lower class, it’s feudalistic and coercive. Same thing with farm labor. Pay a reasonable amount and local people will do it.

[–] CobblerScholar 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Increasing social security taxes would be very unpopular, increasing the age for retirement would be very unpopular. There's no way to reduce the amount of money social security costs without pissing a lot of people off.

The obvious solution to the problem is to make more citizens out of people who want to work here and benefit from everything our taxes pay for. Even aside from how much they would be paid (which should be a fair honest wage) the taxes off the top would go up faster than social security costs as long as people kept coming in and costs stayed stagnant

[–] Bye 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How about a wealth tax for people with over $10 million dollars of assets

How about tripling the size of the IRS (or more) so that the government actually gets what it’s supposed to

How about cutting foreign defense spending

How about increasing the corporate tax rate even just a little bit

Or only paying social security to people who need it

Or getting rid of insanely wasteful farm subsidies

But yes, I think we actually agree, that people who come here need to be paid a fair wage. That was really my point. When people talk about immigration to fix labor shortages, they almost always mean minimum wage or thereabouts (or even lower like for farm workers).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

But, but, that would be ... ˢᵒᶜⁱᵃˡⁱˢᵐ

GASP

How about cutting foreign defense spending

We could, but remember that a lot of that defense spending are people in the US' job. About 2M would be on the block for chopping.

Or getting rid of insanely wasteful farm subsidies

I mean don't stop there. Especially at just that point. Relax the restrictions for crop insurance. Reduce the barriers between farmers and grocers. Literally break up the giant grocery stores. Kroger's is a fucking bitch ass. One of the reasons we have to pay massive subsidies is because there's distinctly a lack of a free market in the farming and grocery business.

And while we're at it. Tell John Deere to fuck off.

[–] Bye 2 points 4 months ago

No that’s why I clarified foreign spending instead of domestic

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