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The amount of people in the thread calling it a Black-List and White-List is to damn high. It's 2023 people, I would hope we could recognize segregationist language and use the alternatives (Block List/Allow List) by now. The industry has been moved on for a while. We don't use Master and Slave anymore, so let's get with the program.
I'm all for more leftists federating, but I can't help but observe this transition and wince somewhat. Lemmygrad seems to have faired well enough without having to step out of the pool because of the deluge of libs and right wing nutters flooding the pond like stock trout. Even lemmy.ml leans more left still then one might have expected.
Either the community culture is unified enough to withstand federating, or it's not. I think it you have to ask, then it's probably not, and you might need to have the foundation inspected.
Gulag-list and comrade-list
Blacklist is not an American word. It’s a British word originating from the term “Blackbook” in the 15th century during the reign of King Henry the 8th, during which he carried with him a literal black book in which he wrote the names of everyone who opposed his rule or conspired to kill him. Hence everyone on the “blacklist” were marked for execution.
This is the first recorded usage of “Blacklist” which was in 1639 in an English play.
https://archive.org/details/dramaticworksofp02massiala/page/194/mode/1up
Referring to a person as “black” is also a modern invention that arose in the 60’s in America.
Why should the world bend to the Western purview of race and retroactively change their language to accommodate Americans? Nearly 1 billion people speak English worldwide. Why should one nationality get to dictate the rules and what’s “appropriate” using their own social understandings?
You don't understand. Everything is about America.
But we're all living in america
I had an issue come up at work once where we were asked to switch to an allow/deny list. Obviously did it because its America and I'm not trying to rock the boat, but I got a good chuckle reading your post thinking back on that.
I think the people worrying about site culture are just kinda boomers afraid of change, reddit blowing up hasn't really changed lemmygrad culture in the slightest
That is the point I'm making. You can't build a better society if you can't handle change and can't handle having your ideologies challenged by hegemonic thinkers. They're worried about opening the hen house doors but the fox is already inside.
to be fair to them it's more that they just want it to be a little comfy posting space, which I really don't think federation will change if they just stay in local or suscribed
People should be using "allowlist" and "blocklist", that's even the official lemmy terms for them.