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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 58 points 1 week ago (23 children)

This board also has soldered memory and uses MicroSD cards and eMMC for storage, both of which are limitations of the processor.

Ah, yeah, hard no from me dog. Can we get one of the new Snapdragons tho? Please?

[–] j4k3 121 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Qualcomm and Broadcom are the two biggest reasons you don't own your devices any more. That is the last option anyone that cares about ownership should care about. You should expect an orphaned kernel just like all their other mobile garbage. Qualcomm is like the Satan of hardware manufacturers. The world would be a much better place if Qualcomm and Broadcom were not in it at all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I work with SoC suppliers, including Qualcomm and can confirm; you need to sign an NDA to get a highly patched old orphaned kernel, often with drivers that are provided only as precompiled binaries, preventing you updating the kernel yourself.

If you want that source code, you need to also pay a lot of money yearly to be a Qualcomm partner and even then you still might not have access to the sources for all the binaries you use. Even when you do get the sources, don't expect them to be updated for new kernel compatibility; you've gotta do that yourself.

Many other manufacturers do this as well, but few are as bad. The environment is getting better, but it seems to be a feature that many large manufacturers feel they can live without.

[–] cornshark 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How's this possible with the kernel under gpl? If you're getting precompiled binaries, shouldn't you also be able to get their sources by law?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Kernel modules don't have to be open source provided they follow certain rules like not using gpl only symbols. This is the same reason you can use an NVIDIA driver.

Its not enforced so much by law as what the fsf and Linux foundation can prove and are willing to pursue; going after a company that size is expensive, especially when they're a Linux foundation partner. A lot of major Linux foundation partners are actively breaking the GPL.

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