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Doctors and teachers don't have a culture of lying to protect each other from imposing state sanctioned violence.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_perjury (police have the term "testilying")
Cops have a unique place in society that makes the consiquences of the lack of self-policing even worse.
The military is an interesting one and a pretty decent comparison. It's worth acknowledging that a decent number consider all of the military to be complicit in bad stuff. There is at least a bit more accountability but there are plenty of cases where people have suffered massively for trying to whistle blow. I'd say the military is better than police tho
There have been plenty of cases where shit got covered up in the military rather than The UCMJ being followed, and someone being prosecuted. That said, we have ROE. The absolute cowards in US Law "Enforcement" are not officers of any type, and they don't wait to confirm that they are being shot at before opening fire. If anyone in the military discharged their weapon because of a fucking acorn falling, we would be summarily discharged. Probably a general discharge under dishonorable conditions as long as no one was killed.
....yeah the blue wall is pretty effed I'm not here to defend it. Although I did read there are signs it might be starting to "crack", like the George Floyd trial.
I just... I get frustrated when people say things with zero nuance like ACAB. Even if you hate cops in general there are at least a few good ones. Plenty of officers give their lives to try to save innocent people, and although they aren't common there are absolutely officers who testify against each other and report each other.
Absolutely. I think for me it really comes down to where you serve. I come from a city in Germany where notoriously a few people died on accident just after being released from the police station (wink wink). I think in this case, all the cops who worked on this station are complicit in murder, they should be in prison and they shouldn't be cops. But that doesn't mean that a police officer who works in a different part of the country has anything to do with the police people in my city. I think this argument can lead to some really problematic conclusions very quickly.
Police Have No Duty to Protect the Public