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Why does everyone hate Microsoft for adding LLMs into Windows and spying on users, but not Apple? (m.youtube.com)

submitted 6 months ago by Nikls94 to c/[email protected]

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I've watched the keynote and read some stuff on the internet and I've found this video about a dude talking about the new update (I linked it here because if you didn't see the keynote, this is probably enough)

Is it just me, or... does no one address that Apple does a Microsoft move by basically scanning everything on every machine and feeding this into their LLM?

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[–] kalleboo 73 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Microsoft's thing takes a screenshot of everything on your screen and saves and indexes it. Opened up your password manager and revealed a password? Saved. Opened a porn site in a private tab in any browser aside from Edge? Saved. Opened up a private encrypted chat to try to get away from your abusive partner/parents? Saved and indexed. Logged into a portal at work showing HIPAA information? Saved and indexed.

Apple's thing is basically a better search feature of all the data you already have saved, that apps have already opted-in to sharing. It runs on device, and Apple has promised they do not send the data back to train the models. They also have some generic ChatGPT-like tool to help rewrite your documents, but that's 100% opt-in so nobody really cares about it, it's easy to just not use.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Came here to say this much less eloquently. Left this comment cause I wanted to use eloquent 😌

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Well eloquented, bravo

[–] QuarterSwede 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

It’s not ChatGPT like, it is ChatGPT, specifically GPT-4o.

See press release and versioning at bottom of the page.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/06/introducing-apple-intelligence-for-iphone-ipad-and-mac/

So, Apple is using the latest version of the best LLM out there and its opt-in. That’s a hugely different approach as you mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Siri can ask ChatGPT but only if you explicitly allow it. They specifically said ChatGPT is only used if you asked for something that needs world knowledge, and even then there is a prompt asking for permission to send data to ChatGPT every time. Apple even said in interviews that you can completely disable the ChatGPT integration if you want.

[–] QuarterSwede 1 points 6 months ago

Fair point.