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[+] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] PeggyLouBaldwin 11 points 5 months ago

I have no idea if you are a shill or a genuine person. But, there are some behaviors that are bad things to do regardless of which you are:

Recasting your opponents’ views as other ones that make less sense and are easier to argue against, consistently, as a way of muddling the discourse, instead of being honest about what you’re saying and what you are disagreeing with and why, and just letting your point of view speak for itself whether or not I personally would agree with it

oh my fuck. this is gold. screenshot, archive.org, federate. put it on a tshirt. use it as a new isntance url.

[–] Rhoeri 1 points 5 months ago

I have no idea if you are a shill or a genuine person.

Look at their user name.

[+] Linkerbaan -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] TheFonz 6 points 5 months ago

Haha, good one coming from you Linkerbaan

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You said, how could anyone have assaulted this woman (or anyone else involved in this discussion), when I just saw a photo of her, and she doesn't look pregnant to me.

But sure, I'm the Charlie Kelly in this mailroom. Okay. I wasn't even gonna bring it up again.

[+] Linkerbaan -7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm unsure why your favorite pastime is writing 7 paragraph long essays that fail basic fact checks which sole purpose appears to be to defend Joe Biden committing Genocide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Favorite pastime
I'm a little skeptical that it's any kind of productive use of time, too, but someone is paying for organized propaganda operations on Lemmy which honestly is a little surprising to me but seems to indicate that it has an impact on elections to some extent, so maybe me doing work to debunk it is worthwhile, too
I have untreated mental illness that causes me to spend time on it, out of all possible proportion to how much I should spend

Pick 2

IDK, maybe pick 3

[–] PeggyLouBaldwin 1 points 5 months ago

someone is paying for organized propaganda operations on Lemmy which honestly is a little surprising to me but seems to indicate that it has an impact on elections to some extent, so maybe me doing work to debunk it is worthwhile, too

is there any proof of this at all?

[–] Linkerbaan -4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hope it's not the second because thinking that people opposing Genocide is actually a paid propaganda campaign is dumber than the people who believe there's a pedo ring in the Pizza hut basement

[–] TheFonz 2 points 5 months ago

Because you dodge questions/arguments faster than Ben Stiller dodges balls

[+] [email protected] -28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Recasting your opponents’ views as other ones that make less sense and are easier to argue against, consistently, as a way of muddling the discourse, instead of being honest about what you’re saying and what you are disagreeing with and why, and just letting your point of view speak for itself whether or not I personally would agree with it Consistently posting a drumbeat of memes in support of your viewpoint (within that same dishonest framing)

I'm reflecting the bad-faith recasting I see in some other memes here, no more no less. I'm happy peacefully existing without creating any memes at all, but when I see a misrepresentation of my view in a dumb meme by a user that I'll leave nameless (they can't defend themselves here right now anyway), I feel an urgent need to lob that turd back at them. I think .world has successfully sheltered themselves from a world-view that challenges a particular self-image, a world-view I happen to share, and I feel an honest need to make my existence known.

At this point I don't care what the response is, but if my silly memes are enough to warrant suspicion of being a troll then fuck it. I find the very serious democratic pandering around here childish, so i'll continue matching it with my own childish representations.

But the message you’re sending doesn’t match the outcome you say you want. I think that’s why you are getting these maybe unfair accusations.

At this point I simply do not care. If the only thing that comes out of these memes is a string of activity in the modlog I'd consider that to be a point well-made.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm reflecting the bad-faith recasting I see in some other memes here, no more no less.

You are welcome to your strategy, but I think “let’s yell at the people who wee in the pool every day, and tell them not to” is a better solution than “well in that case imma start weeing in the pool too.” You’re still gonna be in a pool full of wee. Why is that success?