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Silverblue vs uBlue (self.linux)

submitted 5 months ago by ozymandias117 to c/[email protected]

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I’m considering trying out an immutable distro after using Tumbleweed for the last 6 years.

The two major options for me seem to be Fedora Kinoite or uBlue Aurora-dx

My understanding is that universal-blue is a downstream of Fedora Atomic

So, the points in favor of Kinoite is sticking closer to upstream, however it seems like I would need to layer quite a few packages. My understanding is that this is discouraged in an rpm-ostree setup, particularly due to update time and possible mismatches with RPMFusion

uBlue Aurora-dx seems to include a lot of the additional support I’d need - ROCm, distrobox, virt-manager, libratbag, media codecs, etc. however I’m unclear how mature the project is and whether it will be updated in a timely manner long term

I’m curious what the community thinks between the two as a viable option

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am using Kinoite for quite a while now and not once did layering break anything.

That's great for you. Not everyone may use their distro in the same way as you.

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/is-silverblue-rpm-ostree-intended-to-be-used-with-layered-packages/26162/2 https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-silverblue-36-will-not-succesfully-deploy-after-layering-packages/77502/3 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/991 https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/4280

Not to mention the whole Firefox debacle of including an outdated borked version based with the system install instead of just moving to Flatpak install of most recent stable release. There's a very valid reason why package layering is discouraged by atomic maintainers and why toolbox is there by default as part of OS. And don't even get me started on DKMS and driver installation.

[–] barsquid 1 points 5 months ago

My experience with DKMS is that it is fucked on every distro. I was using Debian at the time and it somehow broke.